Stock option plan (Fair value assumption of options granted) (Details) - $ / shares	9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2018	Jul. 31, 2017
Disclosure of Compensation Related Costs, Share-based Payments [Abstract]
Estimated fair value of options granted	$ 2.09	$ 3.54
Expected volatility	27.60%	30.30%
Risk-free interest rate	2.94%	2.23%
Imputed option life	6 years 7 months 6 days	6 years 3 months 19 days
Expected dividend yield	4.70%	4.66%

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The estimated dividend rate (a percentage of the share price) to be paid (expected dividends) to holders of the underlying shares over the option's term.

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The estimated measure of the percentage by which a share price is expected to fluctuate during a period. Volatility also may be defined as a probability-weighted measure of the dispersion of returns about the mean. The volatility of a share price is the standard deviation of the continuously compounded rates of return on the share over a specified period. That is the same as the standard deviation of the differences in the natural logarithms of the stock prices plus dividends, if any, over the period.

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The risk-free interest rate assumption that is used in valuing an option on its own shares.

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The weighted average grant-date fair value of options granted during the reporting period as calculated by applying the disclosed option pricing methodology.

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Expected term of share-based compensation awards, in 'PnYnMnDTnHnMnS' format, for example, 'P1Y5M13D' represents the reported fact of one year, five months, and thirteen days.

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