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Deferred fee plan (Details) - USD ($)
9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2017
Jul. 31, 2016
Oct. 31, 2016
Deferred Compensation Arrangement with Individual, Excluding Share-based Payments and Postretirement Benefits [Line Items]      
Trustee fee expense $ 620,000    
Dividends payable $ 2,018,000 $ 2,022,000
Deferred Fee Plan [Member]      
Deferred Compensation Arrangement with Individual, Excluding Share-based Payments and Postretirement Benefits [Line Items]      
Trustee fee expense 607,800 521,500  
Deferred trustee fees $ 620,800 $ 574,600  
Basis spread on any deferred fee (percentage) 150.00%    
Term of distribution to participants 10 years    
Shares issued 32,136 29,473  
Dividends payable $ 13,000 $ 53,100