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Management agreement, fees and transactions with related party (Details) - USD ($)
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2016
Apr. 30, 2015
Apr. 30, 2016
Apr. 30, 2015
Oct. 31, 2015
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Asset management fees $ 502,000 $ 498,000 $ 986,000 $ 984,000  
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units     392,000    
Secured loans receivable 5,451,000   5,451,000   $ 5,451,000
Managing Agent Hekemian & Co [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Asset management fees 477,000 473,000 935,000 933,000  
Leasing commissions and reimbursement of operating expenses 154,000 67,000 306,000 136,000  
Insurance commissions 15,000 11,000 64,000 56,000  
Affiliated Entity 1 [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Redevelopment fees 88,000 312,000 359,000 793,000  
Robert S. Hekemian [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units 142,000 134,000 270,000 266,000  
Robert S. Hekemian, Jr. [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Trustee fees and related interest payable in stock units $ 17,000 $ 15,000 $ 34,000 $ 31,000  
Grande Rotunda, LLC [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Ownership by noncontrolling owners (percentage) 40.00%   40.00%   40.00%
Ownership by parent (percentage) 60.00%   60.00%   60.00%
Damascus Centre, LLC [Member]          
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]          
Ownership by noncontrolling owners (percentage) 30.00%   30.00%   30.00%
Ownership by parent (percentage) 70.00%   70.00%   70.00%