Management agreement, fees and transactions with related party (Details Narrative) (USD $) In Thousands, unless otherwise specified	3 Months Ended		9 Months Ended
	Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012	Jul. 31, 2013	Jul. 31, 2012	Oct. 31, 2012
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]
Property management fees	$ 432	$ 457	$ 1,381	$ 1,412
Development fees payable	10,167		10,167		6,102
Managing Agent "Hekemian"
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]
Property management fees	403	428	1,294	1,318
Leasing commissions and reimbursement of operating expenses	73	94	270	328
Insurance commissions paid	68	72	103	111
Consulting services incurred			1,711	236
Consulting services expense			311	236
Development fees payable	1,400		1,400
Commission for refinancing			239
Fees for sale of property			72
Robert S. Hekemian
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]
Trustee fee expense			436	406
Robert S. Hekemian, Jr.
Related Party Transaction [Line Items]
Trustee fee expense			$ 32	$ 33