Deferred fee plan (Details Narrative) (Deferred Fee Plan, USD $)	12 Months Ended
	Oct. 31, 2012	Oct. 31, 2011	Oct. 31, 2010
Deferred Fee Plan
Trustee fee expense	$ 1,092,000	$ 978,000	$ 911,000
Deferred trustee fee expense	4,244,000	3,749,000
Deferred accrued interest	$ 2,468,000	$ 1,918,000