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Intangible Assets 4 (Details) - USD ($)
$ in Thousands
3 Months Ended
Jan. 31, 2018
Jan. 31, 2017
Amortization Expense    
Amortizing intangible assets amortization expense $ 2,200 $ 2,300
Estimated amortization expense    
Remaining 2018 6,688  
2019 4,978  
2020 3,807  
2021 2,282  
2022 2,154  
2023 $ 1,754