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Intangible Assets 4 (Details) (USD $)
3 Months Ended 6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2014
Apr. 30, 2013
Apr. 30, 2014
Apr. 30, 2013
Amortization Expense        
Amortizing intangible assets amortization expense $ 2,400,000 $ 2,400,000 $ 4,700,000 $ 4,500,000
Estimated amortization expense        
Remaining 2014 4,690,000   4,690,000  
2015 9,183,000   9,183,000  
2016 8,741,000   8,741,000  
2017 8,628,000   8,628,000  
2018 8,599,000   8,599,000  
2019 $ 4,623,000   $ 4,623,000