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Fair Value Measurements (Tables)
6 Months Ended
Apr. 30, 2014
Fair Value Measurements Disclosure Table [Abstract]  
Summary of the assets and liabilites measured at fair value on a recurring basis and their assigned levels within the hierarchy.
April 30, 2014              
(in thousands)    Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Other Assets Not Held at Fair Value  Total
                
Financial assets:              
Cash equivalents   $ 11,684$ 16,199$ -$ -$ 27,883
Investments:              
Investment securities, trading:           
Short-term debt  -  192,509   -  -  192,509
Other debt - consolidated sponsored funds           
and separately managed accounts  3,705  87,269   -  -  90,974
Equity - consolidated sponsored funds           
and separately managed accounts  63,108  57,573   -  -  120,681
Investment securities, available-for-sale  12,583  6,079  -  -  18,662
Investment in non-consolidated CLO            
entities(1)  -  -  -  7,714  7,714
Investments in equity method investees(2)  -  -  -  214,238  214,238
Investments, other(3)  -  61  -  3,728  3,789
Derivative instruments     -  819  -  -  819
Assets of consolidated CLO entities:            
Cash equivalents     65,600  -  -  -  65,600
Bank loans and other investments -  601,172  7  -  601,179
Total financial assets   $ 156,680$ 961,681$ 7$ 225,680$ 1,344,048
                
Financial liabilities:              
Derivative instruments $ -$ 4,815$ -$ -$ 4,815
Securities sold, not yet purchased  -  716  -  -  716
Liabilities of consolidated CLO entities:            -
Senior and subordinated note obligations -  2,655  605,826  -  608,481
Redeemable preferred shares -  -  27,333  -  27,333
Total financial liabilities   $ -$ 8,186$ 633,159$ -$ 641,345

October 31, 2013              
(in thousands)    Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Other Assets Not Held at Fair Value  Total
                
Financial assets:              
Cash equivalents   $ 104,261$ 2,900$ -$ -$ 107,161
Investments:              
Investment securities, trading:           
Short-term debt  -  20,116   -  -  20,116
Other debt - consolidated sponsored funds           
and separately managed accounts  7,053  90,597   -  -  97,650
Equity - consolidated sponsored funds           
and separately managed accounts  61,615  56,143   -  -  117,758
Investment securities, available-for-sale  17,083  5,644  -  -  22,727
Investments in non-consolidated CLO            
entities(1)  -  -  -  5,378  5,378
Investments in equity method investees(2)  -  -  -  269,683  269,683
Investments, other(3)  -  60  -  2,951  3,011
Derivative instruments     -  334  -  -  334
Assets of consolidated CLO entities:            
Cash equivalents     29,970  -  -  -  29,970
Bank loans and other investments -  684,436  1,245  -  685,681
Total financial assets   $ 219,982$ 860,230$ 1,245$ 278,012$ 1,359,469
                
Financial liabilities:              
Derivative instruments   $ -$ 8,412$ -$ -$ 8,412
Securities sold, not yet purchased    -  687  -  -  687
Liabilities of consolidated CLO entities:          
Senior and subordinated note obligations -  2,651  276,476  -  279,127
Total financial liabilities   $ -$ 11,750$ 276,476$ -$ 288,226
                
(1) The Company’s investments in these CLO entities are measured at fair value on a non-recurring basis using Level 3 inputs.
 The investments are carried at amortized cost (or cost for warehouse stage entities) unless facts and circumstances 
 indicate that the investments have been impaired, at which time the investments are written down to fair value.  
(2) Investments in equity method investees are not measured at fair value in accordance with GAAP.
(3) Investments, other, includes investments carried at cost that are not measured at fair value in accordance with GAAP.
Summary of fair value transfers between level 1 and level 2
     Three Months Ended April 30,  Six Months Ended April 30,
(in thousands)  2014 2013  2014 2013
Transfers from Level 1 into Level 2(1) $ 542$ 120 $ 214$ 120
Transfers from Level 2 into Level 1(2)   1,524  137   1,027  1,743
             
(1) Transfers from Level 1 into Level 2 primarily represent debt and equity securities that were valued based on prices of similar
 securities because unadjusted quoted market prices were not available in the current period.
(2) Transfers from Level 2 into Level 1 primarily represent debt and equity securities due to the availability of unadjusted quoted
 market prices in active markets.
Summary of the changes in Level 3 assets and liabilities measured at fair value on a recurring basis
    Three Months Ended  Three Months Ended
    April 30, 2014  April 30, 2013
(in thousands) Bank loans and other investments of consolidated CLO entities  Senior and subordinated note obligations and redeemable preferred shares of consolidated CLO entities  Bank loans and other investments of consolidated CLO entity  Senior and subordinated note obligations of consolidated CLO entity
              
Beginning balance$ 7 $ 665,970 $ 2,658 $ 408,924
Net gains (losses) on investments and            
 note obligations included in net           
 income(1)  -   1,026   57   1,671
Amortization of original issue discount            
 on senior notes  -   75   -   -
Principal paydown  -   (33,912)   -   (45,135)
Transfers into Level 3(2)  -   -   104   -
Ending balance$ 7 $ 633,159 $ 2,819 $ 365,460
Change in unrealized gains (losses)          
 included in net income relating to            
 assets and liabilities held$ - $ 1,026 $ 57 $ 1,671

    Six Months Ended  Six Months Ended
    April 30, 2014  April 30, 2013
(in thousands) Bank loans and other investments of consolidated CLO entities  Senior and subordinated note obligations and redeemable preferred shares of consolidated CLO entities  Bank loans and other investments of consolidated CLO entity  Senior and subordinated note obligations of consolidated CLO entity
              
Beginning balance$ 1,245 $ 276,476 $ 2,203 $ 443,946
Issuance of senior and subordinated notes           
 and redeemable preferred shares  -   421,523   -   -
Net gains (losses) on investments and            
 note obligations included in net           
 income(1)  (186)   (1,135)   21   5,256
Sales (1,052)   -  0   -
Amortization of original issue discount           
 on senior notes 0   75   -   -
Principal paydown 0   (63,780)   -   (83,742)
Transfers into Level 3(2)  -   -   595   -
Ending balance$ 7 $ 633,159 $ 2,819 $ 365,460
Change in unrealized gains (losses)          
 included in net income relating to            
 assets and liabilities held$ (9) $ (1,135) $ 21 $ 5,256
(1)Substantially all net gains and losses on investments and note obligations and redeemable preferred shares attributable to the assets and
  borrowings of the Company's consolidated CLO entities are allocated to non-controlling and other beneficial interests on the Company's
  Consolidated Statements of Income.           
(2)Transfers into Level 3 were the result of a reduction in the availability of significant observable inputs used in determining the fair value
  of the securities, including a loan that utilized a discount applied to the demanded yield.
Summary of quantitative information about Level 3 fair value measurements
April 30, 2014    Valuation  Unobservable Value/
($ in thousands)  Fair Value Technique Inputs(1) Range
          
       Prepayment rate 30 percent
Senior and subordinated note     Recovery rate 70 percent
obligations and redeemable     Default rate 100-200 bps
preferred shares$ 633,159 Income approach Discount rate 85-700 bps

October 31, 2013   Valuation  Unobservable Value/
($ in thousands) Fair Value  Technique Inputs(1) Range
          
       Prepayment rate 30 percent
       Recovery rate 70 percent
Senior and subordinated     Default rate 200 bps
note obligations$ 276,476 Income approach Discount rate 105-375 bps
          
(1) Discount rate refers to spread over LIBOR. Lower spreads relate to the more senior tranches in the CLO note structure;
 higher spreads relate to the less senior tranches. The default rate refers to the constant annual default rate. The recovery rate is
 the expected recovery of defaulted amounts received through asset sale or recovery through bankruptcy restructuring or other
 settlement processes. The prepayment rate is the rate at which the underlying collateral is expected to repay principal.