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Investment Securities, Trading (Details) (USD $)
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2013
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Jul. 31, 2012
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Jul. 31, 2013
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Jul. 31, 2012
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Oct. 31, 2012
Schedule Of Trading Securities And Other Trading Assets [Line Items]          
Total investment securities, trading $ 249,125,000   $ 249,125,000   $ 190,253,000
Trading securities net unrealized loss (5,000,000) (1,000,000)      
Trading securities net unrealized gain     10,900,000 5,800,000  
Number of seeded sponsored funds 10 14 10 14  
Number of seeded separately managed accounts 15 4 15 4  
Equity Securities [Member]
         
Schedule Of Trading Securities And Other Trading Assets [Line Items]          
Total investment securities, trading 90,222,000   90,222,000   119,448,000
Debt Securities [Member]
         
Schedule Of Trading Securities And Other Trading Assets [Line Items]          
Total investment securities, trading $ 148,426,000   $ 148,426,000   $ 70,805,000