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Fair Value Measurements Level 3 (Details) (USD $)
In Thousands, unless otherwise specified
12 Months Ended
Oct. 31, 2012
Oct. 31, 2011
Fair Value Assets And Liabilities Measured On Recurring Basis Unobservable Input Reconciliation [Line Items]    
Principal repayments of senior notes $ (28,614)  
Bank Loans And Other Investments Of Consolidated CLO Entity [Member]
   
Fair Value Assets And Liabilities Measured On Recurring Basis Unobservable Input Reconciliation [Line Items]    
Fair value measurements with unobservable inputs reconciliation recurring basis asset value, beginning of period (asset) 5,910 0
Adjustment for adoption of new consolidation guidance   5,265
Net gains (losses) on investments and note obligations included in net income (333) 1,314
Purchases, sales and settlements, net (asset)   (1,353)
Payment in-kind 5  
Transfers into Level 3 (asset) 437  
Transfers out of Level 3 (asset) (3,816)  
Net transfers in and/or out of Level 3 (asset)   684
Fair value measurements with unobservable inputs reconciliation recurring basis asset value, end of period (asset) 2,203 5,910
Change in unrealized (losses) and gains included in net income relating to assets and liabilities held (asset) (333) 1,314
Senior And Subordinated Note Obligations Of Consolidated CLO [Member]
   
Fair Value Assets And Liabilities Measured On Recurring Basis Unobservable Input Reconciliation [Line Items]    
Fair value measurements with unobservable inputs reconciliation recurring basis liability value, beginning of period (liability) 477,699 0
Adjustment for adoption of new consolidation guidance   444,087
Net gains (losses) on investments and note obligations included in net income (2,480) 33,612
Principal repayments of senior notes (28,614)  
Transfers out of Level 3 (liability) (2,659)  
Fair value measurements with unobservable inputs reconciliation recurring basis liability value, end of period (liability) 443,946 477,699
Change in unrealized (losses) and gains included in net income relating to assets and liabilities held (liability) $ (2,480) $ 33,612
Senior and subordinated note obligations prepayment rate 30.00%  
Senior and subordinated note obligations recovery rate 70.00%  
Senior and subordinated note obligations probability of default 2.00%  
Senior and subordinated note obligations minimum discount rate 1.35%  
Senior and subordinated note obligations maximum discount rate 7.00%