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Intangible Assets 2 (Details) (USD $)
3 Months Ended 9 Months Ended
Jul. 31, 2012
Jul. 31, 2011
Jul. 31, 2012
Jul. 31, 2011
Amortization Expense        
Amortizing intangible assets amortization expense $ 2,000,000 $ 2,000,000 $ 6,000,000 $ 5,900,000
Estimated amortization expense        
Remaining 2012     1,999,000  
2013     7,995,000  
2014     7,968,000  
2015     7,743,000  
2016     7,301,000  
2017     $ 7,189,000