0000950103-20-020100.txt : 20201015 0000950103-20-020100.hdr.sgml : 20201015 20201015172803 ACCESSION NUMBER: 0000950103-20-020100 CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: 425 PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 1 FILED AS OF DATE: 20201015 DATE AS OF CHANGE: 20201015 SUBJECT COMPANY: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: EATON VANCE CORP CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000350797 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: INVESTMENT ADVICE [6282] IRS NUMBER: 042718215 STATE OF INCORPORATION: MD FISCAL YEAR END: 1031 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 425 SEC ACT: 1934 Act SEC FILE NUMBER: 001-08100 FILM NUMBER: 201242192 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: TWO INTERNATIONAL PLACE CITY: BOSTON STATE: MA ZIP: 02110 BUSINESS PHONE: 6174828260 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: TWO INTERNATIONAL PLACE CITY: BOSTON STATE: MA ZIP: 02110 FILED BY: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: MORGAN STANLEY CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0000895421 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: SECURITY BROKERS, DEALERS & FLOTATION COMPANIES [6211] IRS NUMBER: 363145972 STATE OF INCORPORATION: DE FISCAL YEAR END: 1231 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 425 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1585 BROADWAY CITY: NEW YORK STATE: NY ZIP: 10036 BUSINESS PHONE: 212-761-4000 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1585 BROADWAY CITY: NEW YORK STATE: NY ZIP: 10036 FORMER COMPANY: FORMER CONFORMED NAME: MORGAN STANLEY DEAN WITTER & CO DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19980326 FORMER COMPANY: FORMER CONFORMED NAME: DEAN WITTER DISCOVER & CO DATE OF NAME CHANGE: 19960315 425 1 dp138786_425.htm FORM 425

Filed by Morgan Stanley

(Commission File No.: 1-11758)

Pursuant to Rule 425 of the Securities Act of 1933

 

Subject Company: Eaton Vance Corp.

(Commission File No.: 1-8100)

 

The following is an excerpt from the Q3 2020 Morgan Stanley Earnings Call held on October 15, 2020:

 

C O R P O R A T E   P A R T I C I P A N T S

 

James Patrick Gorman Morgan Stanley - Chairman & CEO

 

Jonathan M. Pruzan Morgan Stanley - CFO, Head of Corporate Strategy & Executive VP

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

On October 2, we closed the acquisition of E*TRADE. And last week, we announced our intent to acquire Eaton Vance, which serves as the latest strategic step in our transformation. We added these acquisitions from position of strength, and we have strong momentum across each of our businesses.

 

 

While generating the strong organic growth, our recent announcement allowed us to transform our Investment Management business, giving it scale and several incremental growth engines at one time. Frankly, it was too good of an opportunity to pass up.

 

For years, we've viewed Eaton Vance as the perfect partner. We will bring together 2 high-performing asset managers with great business momentum. And through this partnership, we will now manage $1.2 trillion in assets under management and generate a combined $5 billion in annual revenues.

 

And to cement October 2020 as one of the most important months in our history, we received an upgrade to A2 from Moody's, the only GSIB to receive an upgrade during the pandemic. Their recognition of the firm's clear and consistent strategy to shift our business mix towards low-risk, recurring profitable revenue streams in wealth and asset management, together with our integrated investment bank, is a further codification of our transformation.

 

So what do the next 6 to 12 months hold? One, we will make material progress on the integration of E*TRADE. Two, we will close and commence the integration of Eaton Vance. Three, we will reinstitute our capital distribution plan in 1Q 2021, assuming, of course, we have clarity from the Federal Reserve. It is worth noting that our CET1 ratio, following the additions of E*TRADE and Eaton Vance, is expected to be 300 basis points above our SCB requirement of 13.2%. Four, we will focus on driving organic business growth while managing expenses. And five, we will ensure our culture remains firmly client-centric and grounded in doing the right thing. This includes operational resiliency, meeting all regulatory expectations and maintaining the risk profile we enjoy today.

 

 

Jonathan M. Pruzan:

 

We are very excited about the future of this business and to be partnering with Eaton Vance. We expect to close the transaction in the second quarter of 2021. We look forward to advancing our partnership with Eaton Vance and further enhancing our Investment Management platform.

 

 

 

 

Q. James, I wanted to start off with a question on capital. The accretion has been considerable as you noted since the pandemic started, and you're clearly significantly overcapitalized. You also noted that you plan on returning the excess, possibly as early as 1Q next year, subject to regulatory approval and removal of the buyback moratorium.

 

How should we be thinking about the pace and cadence of buyback and your comfort initiating payouts in excess of 100% of earnings? And just separately, how does the dividend target evolve alongside that?

 

James P. Gorman:

 

At some point, we have to do something with this capital. Our shareholders, rightfully who own the company, are entitled to generate a decent return on the capital investment in the company. We have to do something with it. Buying Eaton Vance was a tremendous opportunity to use some of that. It's going to hit our CET1 I think about 90, 100 basis points. But we've accreted 90 to 100 basis points in the meantime.

 

So we're sort of back to where we started, but we own a new company. That's a nice thing. So you can tell I'm a little animated on the subject. If you look at any of the global GSIFIs in the U.S., I think it's fair to say we are carrying the most capital surplus. And I don't think there's any rational reason why once we get through the COVID stress test, if you will, that, that would perpetuate unless we get a result which is adverse, which I don't expect.

 

 

Q: Wanted to start with one on expenses. So at the beginning of the year, James, you provided some targets, 2-year targets, that focused on efficiency ratio and pretax margin in wealth. But I seemed to recall that they were based on -- this was before all the deals. So I think they were based on what I'll refer to as legacy MS, not (inaudible) but just for clarity.

 

So I'm not trying to be nitpicky here. I just wanted to try and understand, is there a way we're going to be able to track your progress in your legacy business towards those targets? Or is the idea that now that you've got so many of these like strategic integrations that are continuing their transformation, that's sort of trumping the work that you had previously laid out on efficiency. And therefore, it's just more important to focus on the integration there and not the efficiency push. Just want to try to understand how to think about that.

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

Number two is what do the new acquisitions due to our efficiency ratio. If you look at the pretax margin on the E*TRADE business, it's -- let's see, it was -- it's sort of in the 40-ish percent range, maybe a little below that with what's going on with net interest income. And if you look at the Eaton Vance business, it's closer to 30%.

 

 

 

So by definition, if you simply added 1 plus 1, your efficiency ratio would actually be lower. But the third bucket, of course, is what are the integration costs. We don't start on Eaton Vance until we close that, which Jon said, should be Q2 of next year.

 

 

Q: Okay. Great. And then I know that, Jon, I think you mentioned that your plan is to lay out some more specifics around E*TRADE with the fourth quarter call, which makes a lot of sense. But what's your early read on how you're thinking about some of these changes that are likely to happen on the back of this integration?

 

Is the plan that the E*TRADE bank sub will be folded into the -- one of the Morgan Stanley bank subs? Are you planning to integrate the BDs? And really one of the great assets that E*TRADE brings, the stock plan business, has sort of a different focus, more of a public plan focus. And so the strengths are very different but offer a nice kind of yin and yang with the Solium, which has a strong private offering.

 

So how do you plan to bring those platforms together? Or is the idea that in order to fully capture the broad strength, keeping them separate is a better approach. And so it -- maybe the full integration is not going to be realized in order to maintain those various strengths?

 

 

Jonathan M. Pruzan:

 

Sure. And I mean, broadly, the answer, Brennan, to that question is yes. But I think the way we're thinking about it, first, we've got to integrate the systems. We want to capture the cost and the funding synergies that we laid out.

 

We want to do it in a way that doesn't disrupt the customer experience and ultimately enhances the customer experience. And then as you said, I think we believe there are significant opportunities across all 3 channels to generate growth and revenue growth. And whether that's in the stock plan business and trying to get our cash capture numbers up to the E*TRADE numbers when we did the deal, they were running about 15%. They're now running north of 20%. Our numbers were dramatically lower than that.

 

So if we can bring the combined business together and get that to a higher level, closer to theirs, that's a significant synergy. Clearly there, generating lots of new clients. Some of those clients are ultimately going to want to want advice.

 

And so there are lots of opportunities across all 3 channels, and we'll start to see those as we get these systems integrated. As we mentioned before that we'll keep the E*TRADE brand for the self-directed business line, but we're going to bring these companies together slowly.

 

This was not a deal about costs. It was about revenue opportunities ultimately, just like the Eaton Vance deal was. And we're going to take our time, integrate them well and bring the cultures and companies together.

 

 

Q: All right. And then just given the recent M&A, whether it's E*TRADE wallet or Eaton Vance Investment Management, I think both make sense. Just curious on timing. Obviously, you have the excess capital or are you seeing something from like an industry dynamic?

 

And then more importantly, both of those businesses are putting up good growth. So just what do you think that business does with these transactions, obviously, not over the next 6, 12 months, maybe 2 to 4 years.

 

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

Yes. You're a little garbled there with the phone line. But I think the question was around the timing of those transactions. Here's how I think about acquisitions.

 

There are at least 4 things that matter. One is strategy, two is culture, three is price, and four is timing. Strategy is like the high table, if you will, the holy grail. You've got to have strategic intent. It's got to be a logical fit. It's got to be building on something which you already have confidence in.

 

It's not a swing for the fences. It's not new ground. It's something we know well, we're good at, and that's the perfect strategic opportunity comes when you get that, and we got that with E*TRADE and then with Eaton Vance.

 

Culture is very important, particularly in the finance industry, where a lot of deals have gone bad because of cultural -- bad cultural fits, including, by the way, in the asset management space. And there's a fairly high skepticism, probably from all of you, about large asset management deals.

 

We talked through that a lot. Eaton Vance has been around 94 years. We're the biggest distributor of their product. We know them extremely well. Parametric has been an absolute home run in our system. The cover funds and what they've done in sustainability space, the fixed income, combined with our fixed income business, their core equity funds, there's so much to like about it and about their leadership team. And I would point out that they have they had an internal voting shareholder structure, and all 25 of their internal voting shareholders voted in favor of the deal unanimous. So it wasn't just the Board, it was the management. So culture, I feel really good about.

 

Price is price. You don't buy quality assets cheaply. Timing is the thing least in your control. And I'm sure if we didn't do this transaction with Eaton Vance, somebody else might have. We didn't want to do it before we had the E*TRADE thing completely done.

 

On the other hand, we want to get moving. It's assets -- quality assets don't sit on the shelf for very long. They are interested in Morgan Stanley. We're interested in them. So timing is just -- timing is the thing you've got to give most on. It may not be the ultimate convenience. It certainly came hot on the tail of E*TRADE. We didn't want to communicate, all of a sudden, we're trying to do an acquisition a week. We're not. We didn't control the timing.

 

So we -- if we got the first 3 right, and timing is the least important. What it does in the COVID thing, I think, is your broader timing issue with what's going on with the economy. Listen, their business is growing. They've had great growth. As I said, the parametric product has done incredibly well since it was created a few years ago.

 

They're seeing great growth across the whole platform as is our asset management business. So we really think we're putting together two strong, growing businesses. And the investment market is not going to go away whatever happens in the election, whatever happens politically. So I'm not worried about that over the next couple of years.

 

 

Q: Well, first, 3% quarter-over-quarter loan growth is well above the industry. So just wondered about the risk related to that and how you're getting what others are not.

 

 

 

Second, on the E*TRADE acquisition, the spread revenues for E*TRADE seem like they'd be quite a bit lower, so updates on revenue thoughts with that acquisition. And then third, with Eaton Vance, $7 billion for a firm that's earning about $360 million. You'd have to double the earnings just to get over a 10% ROE. So in terms of risk, loan risk, E*TRADE risk with the spread revenues and Eaton Vance risk with just really getting your full money's worth.

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

On Eaton Vance, listen, Mike, I'm not that smart. One of your colleagues on the call said that even if we paid $1 billion excess for it at a $90 billion company, it's like, yes, it's -- I'm not ashamed to say it's fully priced, but this is a quality asset. And I look at the growth rate in the asset. I don't look at a static position.

 

We will get the expenses out of this. We will consolidate this. We will generate the revenues from it. It fills out our fixed income asset management business in a way that we couldn't have done otherwise, and it provides us some real growth endurance as I said with their core equities platform with Parametric, with Calvert Funds, the Atlanta Fund. They've got so many businesses that work for us.

 

They have very little international distribution. We can take them internationally. We have trouble getting our product distributed domestically because we didn't have a strong whole selling sales force as others do. They do. They have a world-class one.

 

So will that deal deliver? I'm positive that deal is going to deliver. And if we overpaid by a couple of hundred million dollars, people said we overpaid Solium by a couple of hundred million dollars. Some people said we overpaid Smith Barney by a couple of billion dollars. So I take a very long-term view on acquisitions.

 

 

Q: All right. Just one more follow-up. Pull back the lens even more, I mean, over the last 10 to 20 years, you're right now reversing some of the actions that you took. You sold off Van Kampen, and now you go ahead and get an asset manager. You got out of the kind of the mass market wealth management, now you're back with E*TRADE. Can you give us kind of your big picture, strategic thoughts on why the long-term reversal here?

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

I totally disagree with what you just said. We've not had a long-term reversal. We sold Van Kampen in which I regard as a mistake. I said it a couple of years later I wish we hadn't done it, but we did it. And I said on a call a couple of weeks ago, if Marty Flanagan was listening, I regret that, but God bless him. He's a friend of mine, and I wish him well.

 

We haven't got out of the mass market. And by the way, E*TRADE is a combination of a workplace business, an active trader, options, derivative business and a direct business. We have always provided financial services since we merged with (inaudible) in 1997 to the average investor.

 

We happen to have a lot of very, very wealthy investors in addition, but we have millions of people with hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest, not tens of millions of dollars to invest.

 

 

 

So this is not a change in strategy at all. This is about getting scale in the businesses we want to be in.

 

The one thing we did differently, which I would have done differently, I've said repeatedly is Van Kampen. But you look at some of the other stuff we did. We got out of mortgage servicing, Saxon. We got out of shipping storage and oil storage and shipping, Transmontaigne and (inaudible). We got out of the (inaudible) PDT business, Peter Muller's business because it was a prop business.

 

So we shut down FrontPoint, our hedge fund. We got out of Discover, which was a credit card business to the mass market, unsecured credit. We have fundamentally over -- and that happened before my tenure, obviously, but fundamentally changed the profile of this company to focus on originating, distributing and managing capital for individuals, governments and institutions.

 

That's what we do, and this is entirely consistent with that. And Eaton Vance sits squarely in that square.

 

 

Q: First one is just around the acquisitions, and I appreciate that you guys have your hands full, and the message is nothing big coming soon or at least it sounds like. But if we take a step back, you've added many millions of new retail customers to Morgan Stanley's ecosystem over a short period of time, whether that be through Solium, E*TRADE or Eaton Vance.

 

And so if we think about products, are there any big products or services that you're not touching yet at the firm level that could really make sense to plug into this broader retail consumer base? Or is it really now just more about cross-selling existing Morgan Stanley?

 

 

James P. Gorman:

 

I think we've got a very full plate right now. And I think the biggest opportunity is probably putting mortgage product to high FICO score clients with good assets at E*TRADE and putting the banking product through the Morgan Stanley system, the digital banking to go with our already the two banks that we have.

 

I think they are the two obvious ones, Devin, but I'm not seeing a specific product gap. And as always, we have total open architecture, would take anybody's best product, including from all our competitors, because if that's what's right for the client, then that's the right thing to do. So I'm not seeing a product gap.

 

 

 

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These risks, as well as other risks associated with the proposed acquisition, will be more fully discussed in the registration statement on Form S-4 that will be filed with the SEC in connection with the proposed acquisition. While the list of factors presented here is, and the list of factors to be presented in the registration statement on Form S-4 will be, considered representative, no such list should be considered to be a complete statement of all potential risks and uncertainties. Unlisted factors may present significant additional obstacles to the realization of forward-looking statements. 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