Management, performance and founders fees (Tables)

12 Months Ended

Dec. 31, 2017

Management, Performance and Founders Fees [Abstract]

Schedule of investment fee expenses

For the years ended December 31, 2017, 2016 and 2015, management and performance fees to related parties are as follows:

	2017		2016		2015
	($ in thousands)
Management fees - Third Point LLC	$	36,733	$	7,110	$	6,362
Management fees - Founders (1)	—		35,321		36,053
Performance fees - Third Point Advisors LLC (before loss carryforward)	93,978		17,276		7,061
Performance fees - loss carryforward	—		—		(6,199		)
	$	130,711	$	59,707	$	43,277

(1) KEP TP Bermuda Ltd., KIA TP Bermuda Ltd., Pine Brook LVR, L.P., P RE Opportunities Ltd. and Dowling Capital Partners I, L.P., collectively the “Founders”, received a share of the management fees in proportion to their initial investments in Third Point Re until December 22, 2016.