Filed by HudBay Minerals Inc.
Pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended
Subject Company: Augusta Resource Corporation
Commission File Number: 001-32943
Date: February 20, 2014
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INTERVIEW WITH DAVID GAROFALO
CATHERINE MURRAY (BNN-TV): Yesterday after the close Hudbay Minerals reported an adjusted loss of five cents per share in the fourth quarter falling short of analysts estimates. The update comes as Hudbay tries to acquire Augusta Resources for $428 million through a hostile offer.
For the latest on the bid as well as the company, were now joined by David Garofalo, CEO of Hudbay Minerals.
David, great to have you in with us again. Thank you.
DAVID GAROFALO (Chief Executive Officer, Hudbay Minerals): Thanks for having me on.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Lets talk a little bit about first of all your interest in Augusta, the bid here. What assets do they have that you want?
DAVID GAROFALO: Well, the only undeveloped Rosemont Copper deposit in Arizona. Its a porphyry style deposit, much like the one weve just built in Constancia, similar scale. Constancia was a $1.7 billion project. Its nearly constructed and that project, their capital cost they submitted is about 1.2 billion. But a very similar scale production rate, a very similar geology.
We can take our project team from Constancia, marry it up with the project team they have on the ground in Arizona, and theres a lot of synergies that can be realized there.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Its interesting though, David a lot of people have pointed out, of course Id love to get your reaction you and your company dont normally do hostile take-over offers or bids. Why is it hostile?
DAVID GAROFALO: Well, you know, in this environment right now juniors have had a very difficult time in terms of their valuations. Their multiples have been significantly compressed. So I think for a lot of boards and management, its very difficult to accept share prices at these low
absolute levels. And so quite often, bids dont get shown to the shareholders. So we decided to go directly to the shareholders because we actually think were crystalizing significant value for them.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Why do you think its crystallizing significant value? I mean, when you look at some of the projects that they have, as you just talked about the project in Arizona, that from what I understand has a 20-year life.
DAVID GAROFALO: It
CATHERINE MURRAY: That sounds quite long if youre one of those shareholders, worth quite a bit.
DAVID GAROFALO: Well, weve come in with a 60-per-cent plus premium to the 20-day volume-weighted average price. But what we also bring to the table is the financial and technical capacity to actually build the mine, finance it from internal cash flow. And thats what Augusta is missing. Augusta in fact has negative working capital right now, really doesnt have a discernible means to actually finance the project, doesnt have an owners team built out to build it out. We have that. Weve built 28 mines in the 87 years weve been in business, so we bring that technical expertise and depth of financial capacity to bear here.
CATHERINE MURRAY: David, its interesting though because you know, we talk a lot about this on BNN that there is a disconnect in terms of larger companies looking to acquire smaller companies that have more difficult situations right now from a balance sheet perspective. And theres a disconnect in terms of what the true value is.
Im curious in terms of seeing some of these deals take place. Whats the chatter in the boardrooms, in the executive offices such as yourselves as it relates to how aggressive do we need to be to make sure that nobody else comes in and does another bid?
DAVID GAROFALO: Well, I wouldnt characterize it as aggressive. Id characterize it being disciplined. And we allocate capital, expecting to get a real rate of return back in our invested capital, and that includes the acquisition costs of a company like Augusta, plus the cost to construct the mine. So were committing almost $2 billion of capital towards this, all in. And we have to generate an adequate return of capital for shareholders and it has to be above and beyond what our cost of capital is.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Um-hmm.
DAVID GAROFALO: Otherwise were not building a real business. All were (inaudible) is a commodity play, which doesnt serve anybody. And if you look at whats happened in the mining business over the last four or five years with significant CEO turnover
CATHERINE MURRAY: Yeah.
DAVID GAROFALO: that discipline was lost. They werent looking for returns on capital. They were just looking for growth, for growths sake.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Um-hmm.
DAVID GAROFALO: And destroyed capital as a result. And were not going to do that.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Do you feel, David, though, when you look at some of your colleagues within the industry, that there has really been a change or that discipline is back and we can feel more comfortable in the group in general?
DAVID GAROFALO: Id say now it is because capitals scarce and I think companies are being forced to exert some financial discipline. But look, capital ebbs and flows; and when capital comes back in the space in a significant fashion, there are going to be some companies that are quite frankly going to lose that discipline.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Okay. Right, that you one might think that that could happen again.
DAVID GAROFALO: Absolutely.
CATHERINE MURRAY: David, lets talk a little bit though about your quarter that you reported yesterday after close, and then you did have your conference call this morning. What do you think is one of the reasons for when I saw the stock earlier it was trading lower?
DAVID GAROFALO: I can only speculate, its not on significant volume. Our earnings in the quarter were more or less in line with our expectations, a little weaker than wed hoped from our 777 Mine.
I think the bigger story here is were in a period of significant transformation, transition. Were going from one to four operating mines by the end of this year. So were ramping up three new ones and our earnings and cash flow generation capacity will increase immeasurably I think over the course of the year.
CATHERINE MURRAY: What was some of the pushback or the questions on the conference call though from the analyst community?
DAVID GAROFALO: Oh, you know, its a lot of stuff down to the, you know, the granular detail, whats happening at the operations. Our projects are a significant area of focus for investors because were near the end of the construction of those projects and the productions starting to ramp up.
So they focus on the commissioning risks associated with that, the remaining capital risk, that sort of thing, to ensure that were going to be able to maintain our budgets and our timelines.
CATHERINE MURRAY: And, David, I just want to mention to our viewers and you as well to get your reaction from a global perspective, but we did just get news that Canada announces sanctions against Ukraine. So that I want to pass on to our viewers.
But also, when you step back and you look at the
the world today, what are the risks you see and/or opportunities?
DAVID GAROFALO: Well, in our business in particular, theres certainly a syndrome of not in my backyard for mining. Its very difficult to get permits. Even in the energy space generally, look whats happened with Keystone and Northern Gateway.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Um-hmm.
DAVID GAROFALO: Its very difficult to get that social license, let alone the permitting to get these projects into construction. So its important for companies of like of our size, medium size, not to stretch yourselves too thinly from a political risk standpoint, to be in investment-grade countries, to be
in countries that have a rational regulatory framework for getting natural resources developed.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Um-hmm.
DAVID GAROFALO: And thats the case for Canada and Peru. Arizona, a little bit less so. Its not as prescriptive. Its more politicized, but fortunately for Augusta theyve been, you know, running the permitting process for close to eight years and
CATHERINE MURRAY: Yeah.
DAVID GAROFALO: its getting to, I hope, an end for them.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Absolutely. David, thank you very much for being with us.
DAVID GAROFALO: Thanks for having me on.
CATHERINE MURRAY: Thank you. That was David Garofalo, CEO of Hudbay Minerals.
The full details of the offer by Hudbay to purchase all of the issued and outstanding common shares of Augusta (the Offer) have been set out in the takeover bid circular and accompanying offer documents (collectively, the Offer Documents), which Hudbay has filed with the Canadian securities regulatory authorities. Concurrently, Hudbay has filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (the SEC) a registration statement on Form F-10 (the Registration Statement), which contains a prospectus relating to the Offer (the Prospectus), and a tender offer statement on Schedule TO (the Schedule TO). This transcript is not a substitute for the Offer Documents, the Prospectus, the Registration Statement or the Schedule TO. AUGUSTA SHAREHOLDERS AND OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES ARE URGED TO READ THESE DOCUMENTS, ALL DOCUMENTS INCORPORATED BY REFERENCE, ALL OTHER APPLICABLE DOCUMENTS AND ANY AMENDMENTS OR SUPPLEMENTS TO ANY SUCH DOCUMENTS WHEN THEY BECOME AVAILABLE, BECAUSE EACH CONTAINS OR WILL CONTAIN IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT HUDBAY, AUGUSTA AND THE OFFER. Materials filed with the Canadian securities regulatory authorities are available electronically without charge at www.sedar.com. Materials filed with the SEC are available electronically without charge at the SECs website, www.sec.gov. All such materials may also be obtained without charge at Hudbays website, www.hudbayminerals.com or by directing a written or oral request to the Information Agent for the Offer, Kingsdale Shareholder Services Inc., toll-free at 1-877-659-1818 or by e-mail at contactus@kingsdaleshareholder.com or to the Vice President, Legal and Corporate Secretary of Hudbay at 25 York Street, Suite 800, Toronto, Ontario, telephone (416) 362-8181.
This transcript does not constitute an offer to buy or the solicitation of an offer to sell any of the securities of Augusta. The securities registered pursuant to the Registration Statement are not offered for sale in any jurisdiction in which such offer or sale is not permitted.