5. Stock Based Compensation: Schedule of Stock Option Activity (Details) (USD $)	9 Months Ended
	Jul. 31, 2012
Shares, Options Outstanding at beginning of period	14,000
Shares, Granted	0
Shares, Exercised	0
Shares, Expired	14,000
Shares, Options Outstanding at end of period	0
Shares, Options exerciseable at end of period	0
Option exercise price range	$ 0.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, beginning of period	$ 39.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Granted	$ 0.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Exercised	$ 0.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Expired	$ 39.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Outstanding at end of period	$ 0.00
Weighted Average Exercise Price, Exercisable at end of period	$ 0.00
Aggregate Intrinsic Value, Outstanding beginning of period	$ 546,000
Aggregate Intrinsic Value, Granted	0
Aggregate Intrinsic Value, Exercised	0
Aggregate Intrinsic Value, Expired	0
Aggregate Intrinsic Value, Oustanding at end of period	$ 0