EX-99.1 2 dex991.htm SLIDES FROM PRESENTATION TO BE USED ON SEPTEMBER 16, 2009 Slides from presentation to be used on September 16, 2009
2009 Master Limited
Partnership Investor Conference
September 2009
Curt Anastasio, CEO and
President
Exhibit 99.1


Statements contained in this presentation that state management’s expectations or
predictions of the future are forward-looking statements intended to be covered by the
safe harbor provisions of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of
1934.
The
words
“believe,”
“expect,”
“should,”
“estimates,”
and
other
similar
expressions identify forward-looking statements.  It is important to note that actual
results could differ materially from those projected in such forward-looking statements. 
We undertake no duty to update any forward-looking statement to conform the
statement to actual results or changes in the company’s expectations. For more
information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from those
expressed
or
forecasted,
see
NuStar
Energy
L.P.’s
and
NuStar
GP
Holdings,
LLC’s
respective annual reports on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, filed with
the
Securities
and
Exchange
Commission
and
available
on
NuStar’s
websites
at
www.nustarenergy.com
and
www.nustargp.com.
Forward Looking Statements
2


NuStar
Overview
3


High quality, large and diverse asset footprint with
operations in eight different countries including the
U.S., Mexico, Netherlands, Netherland Antilles (i.e.
Caribbean), England, Ireland, Scotland and Canada
Third largest independent liquids terminal operator in
the world and second largest in the U.S. that
provides significant growth opportunities
What Sets NuStar Apart from its Peers
No. 1 asphalt producer on the East Coast and No. 3 asphalt producer in the U.S.
Investment grade credit rating with demonstrated access to capital markets in difficult conditions
Lower cost of capital versus majority of peers
Incentive Distribution Rights (IDRs) capped at 25% vs. 50% for most MLPs
Strong corporate culture of taking care of employees, making safety a top priority, achieving operational
excellence and contributing time and money to our communities
Recognized in 2008 as one of the best companies to work for in America and for our strong safety record
Experienced and proven management team with substantial equity ownership and industry experience
4


NuStar
Energy L.P. (NYSE: NS) is a leading
publicly traded growth-oriented partnership with
a market capitalization of nearly $2.9 billion and
an enterprise value of approximately $4.9 billion
One of the largest independent petroleum pipeline
and terminal operators in the U.S. and one of the
largest asphalt refiners and marketers in the U.S.
NuStar
GP Holdings, LLC (NYSE: NSH) holds
the 2% general partner interest, 18.4% of the
common units and incentive distribution rights in
NuStar
Energy L.P.
NuStar
Overview –
Two Publicly Traded Companies
NS
NSH
IPO Date:
4/16/2001
7/19/2006
Unit Price (9/11/09):
$51.84
$23.52
Annual Distribution/Unit:
$4.23
$1.72
Yield (9/11/09):
8.16%
7.20%
Market Equity Capitalization:
$2,823 million
$1,001 million
Enterprise Value:
$4,899 million
$996 million
Total Assets (6/30/09):
$4,862 million
$577 million
Debt/Capitalization (6/30/09):
49.1%
n/a
Fortune 500 Ranking:
485
n/a
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Asset Stats:
Operations in eight different
countries including the U.S., Mexico,
Netherlands, Netherlands Antilles
(i.e. Caribbean), England, Ireland,
Scotland and Canada
8,407 miles of crude oil and refined
product pipelines
82 terminal facilities and four crude
oil storage tank facilities
Nearly 91 million barrels of storage
capacity
2 asphalt refineries capable of
processing 104,000 bpd of crude oil
Large and Diverse Geographic Footprint with
Assets in Key Locations
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46%
36%
18%
Percentage of Expected 2009 Segment
Operating Income
Approximately 82% of NuStar Energy’s segment operating income in 2009 is expected to come from fee-
based operations
Remainder of expected 2009 segment operating income relates to margin-based asphalt and fuels
marketing segment
Storage (~46%)
Transportation (~36%)
Refined Product Terminals
Crude Oil Storage
Refined Product Pipelines*
Crude Oil Pipelines
Asphalt & Fuels Marketing (~18%)
Asphalt
Fuels Marketing
Product Supply, Wholesale and Fuel Oil
Marketing
Bunkering
Diversified Operations from Three
Business Segments
*  Includes primarily distillates, gasoline, propane, jet fuel, ammonia and other light ends.  Does not include natural gas. 
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Global Leader in Independent                      
Liquids Storage
NuStar
is the third largest independent liquids terminal operator in the world and second largest in the U.S.
Completed
expansion
projects
under
our
$400
million
construction
program,
which
contributed
around
8.5
million
barrels of incremental storage capacity
Of the roughly 91 million barrels of storage capacity, approximately 50 million barrels are crude oil and heavy fuel
products, 39 million barrels are refined products and 2 million barrels are biofuels
Source:  Company Websites & Management Presentations
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173
104
91
91
85
60
41
39
34
25
24
22
16
12
10
8
8
Independent Liquids Storage Capacity
(Millions of Barrels)


Distributable Cash Flow ($ in Millions)
EBITDA ($ in Millions)
2008
was
a
record
year
financially
primarily
due
to
contribution
from
asphalt
operations
and
growth
projects
Despite challenging  economic and market conditions, reported record second quarter 2009 earnings of
$75.1 million, or $1.38 per unit, over nine times higher than lasts year’s $8.1 million, or $0.15 per unit
For the six months ended June 30, 2009, earnings were $106.8 million, or $1.96 per unit, significantly
higher than the $57.7 million, or $1.11 per unit, for the six months ended June 30, 2008
Note:  2005
and
2006
distributable
cash
flow
and
EBITDA
are
from
continuing
operations
Historical Growth in Earnings
9
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
$63
$77
$112
$133
$219
$322
$353
$492
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
$56
$68
$86
$102
$154
$214
$221
$319


$4.085
$3.835
$3.60
$3.365
$3.20
$2.95
$2.75
$2.40
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
NS Annual Distribution Since IPO
*
*     Based on NS annualized distribution of $0.60 per unit in 2001
**  Based on NSH annualized distribution of $0.32 per unit in 2006
NSH Annual Distribution Since IPO
$1.28
$1.38
$1.58
2006
2007
2008
**
~8.0% CAGR
~11% CAGR
NS Distribution Coverage Applicable to LPs
NuStar Energy L.P. reported a strong distribution coverage
ratio of 2.14 times applicable to limited partners for 2Q09
and 1.67 times for the six months ended June 30, 2009
1.20x
1.25x
1.28x
1.30x
1.19x
1.16x
1.10x
1.33
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
Consistent Distribution Growth While
Maintaining a Solid Distribution Coverage
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-50%
-40%
-30%
-20%
-10%
0%
10%
20%
30%
40%
50%
9/11/08
11/2/08
12/24/08
2/14/09
4/7/09
5/29/09
7/20/09
9/11/09
Despite
the
market
turmoil,
both
NuStar
companies
have
weathered
the
storm
well,
beating
their
respective peer groups and market indices
Total Return –
Last Twelve Months (LTM)
Source:  Barclays Capital
NuStar
Companies Outperforming During
Challenging Economic times
NS 15%
S&P 500 (14)%
Alerian
MLP Index 10%     
NSH Peers 22%
NSH 28%
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Note: NSH GP Peers Total Return Index is weighted on market capitalization of each company and includes the following companies: AHD, AHGP, BGH, EPE, ETE, HPGP, MGG, and NRGP.
The Alerian MLP Index is a composite of the 50 most prominent energy master limited partnerships calculated by Standard & Poor's using a float-adjusted market capitalization
methodology.


Financial Overview
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Maintaining Sufficient Liquidity                               
with Disciplined Financial Strategy
NS Current Revolver Availability
Rate on NS revolver based on LIBOR plus 50 bps, currently around
83 bps
Rate on NSH revolver based on LIBOR plus 450 bps
Financial Covenant Tests:
Debt-to-EBITDA cannot exceed 5.0 to 1.0 times
Following
an
acquisition
of
$100
million
or
more,
NuStar
may
increase
Debt-to-EBITDA
to
5.5
times
for
two
consecutive
quarters
Total Bank Credit
$1,223
Less:
Borrowings
(823)
Letters of Credit
(60)
Revolver Liquidity
$340
(Dollars in Millions)
NSH Current Revolver Availability
Total Bank Credit              $19.5
Less:
Borrowings                            -
Letters of Credit                   -
Revolver Liquidity              $19.5
(Dollars in Millions)
2009
$20.7
2010
$0.8
2011
$0.8
2012
$1,185.1*
2013
$481.0
2014
$0.6
*  Primarily includes maturity of revolver, which expires
December 2012, and $350 million of senior notes
NS Debt Maturities (6/30/09)
NSH Debt Maturities (6/30/09)
2009
$-
2009
$-
2011
$-
2012
$-
2013
$-
2014
$-
**  NSH’s
revolving credit facility expires on
July 16, 2010
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Actuals
June 2009 YTD
Reliability
Other
Internal Growth
Total
Capital Forecast
Transportation
13,908
$              
11,057
$          
-
$                
15,936
$                
26,993
$          
Storage
44,145
                
46,799
            
-
                   
79,797
                   
126,596
          
Corporate - IS
3,770
                   
5,053
              
1,481
              
854
                        
7,388
              
Asphalt & Fuels Marketing
7,184
                   
11,316
            
-
                   
10,930
                   
22,246
            
     Total Forecast
69,007
$              
74,225
$          
1,481
$            
107,517
$             
183,223
$       
2009 Forecast
Internal Growth Spending Forecast has been
Increasing as Capital Markets Improve
Now targeting nearly $107.5 million of strategic growth capital spending for 2009 versus our previous target of $98 million and
versus $80 million at the start of 2009
Difference from $98 million relates to additional storage projects at our St. Eustatius terminal and one of our UK terminals and
upgrade projects to handle additional products at two of our West Coast terminals
$107.5 million should contribute approximately $29 million of operating income annually
Other major 2009 strategic projects include:
Approximately $19 million of pipeline projects on NuStar’s East pipeline and at our St. James, LA facility to increase the capacity and
flexibility of our two pipelines and to accommodate new and existing customers
Approximately $12 million to finish up tank expansion projects at NuStar’s Texas City, TX facility as part of our $400 million
construction program
Approximately $26 million at our Texas City, TX facility to improve and upgrade it to make it a world-class heavy oil terminal
Approximately $13 million at our Paulsboro and Savannah asphalt facilities to improve crude flexibility and rates, improve the energy
efficiency of the refineries and increase the production of polymer modified and warm-mix asphalt
NuStar Energy L.P. Board of Directors recently approved full funding for an $85 million internal growth program associated with
our Texas City, Texas terminal facility, of which approximately $40 million is already included in our 2009 internal growth forecast
(Dollars in Millions)
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Significant Long-Term Internal Growth and
Acquisition Opportunities
Acquisition Criteria
Accretive to distributable cash flows
Strong internal growth potential
Synergistic with existing operations (i.e. ties in with
strategy)
Storage –
Continue to evaluate domestic and
international storage opportunities in strategic hub
locations
Amsterdam/Rotterdam/Antwerp
Evaluating
opportunities to acquire storage facilities to meet
growing demand
Asphalt –
Continue to evaluate production and
logistics opportunities to expand markets
Acquisitions
Internal Growth
Storage:
Black
Oil
Strategy
Continue
to
implement
strategy
of
building
crude oil and heavy fuel oil storage at Texas City, TX and St.
James, LA facilities
St. Eustatius –
Evaluating opportunities to expand or acquire
nearby terminals to increase presence in the Caribbean market
Amsterdam/Rotterdam/Antwerp
Evaluating
opportunities
to
build storage facilities to meet growing demand
United
Kingdom
Build-out
existing
terminals
Pipelines:
Ammonia
Pipeline
Evaluating
additional
pipeline
laterals
to
industrial end users
Central/South
Texas
Evaluating
opportunities
to
increase
utilization of assets to meet demand in these growing market
Additional projects to address crude flexibility, improve quality of
light products, produce roofing flux and blend crude to optimize
operations
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Evaluating around $500 million of acquisition and internal growth opportunities over the next few years
Asphalt:


2009 Outlook
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Compared to 2008, we continue to expect higher results from our storage segment and comparable or better results
from our transportation segment in 2009; however, results from our asphalt operations will be lower than anticipated
Third and fourth quarter 2009 results from our asphalt operations will be lower than expected primarily due to reduced
product margins
Asphalt prices have not kept pace with the over 50% increase in crude oil prices 2009 year-to-date, which reduces our product
margin
Our product margin per barrel for the third quarter of 2009 is expected to be in the range of $4.50 to $5.50 per barrel
We expect fourth quarter 2009 earnings from our asphalt operations to follow the typical seasonal pattern of decline
Fourth quarter 2009 asphalt prices are forecasted to decline at a faster rate than crude prices
Although we continue to expect that federal stimulus construction work will materialize primarily in 2010 and 2011, only a
small percentage of the dedicated federal stimulus funds have been spent in 2009, or, roughly $1.4 billion of the nearly $27
billion available for highway projects
We expect a positive impact to public sector asphalt demand primarily in 2010 and 2011 when most of the  federal stimulus
spending is expected to occur
Private sector activity expected to be limited for the balance of 2009 by the continued weak economy
Economic recovery should support private sector demand
EBITDA from our asphalt operations now expected to be in the range of $50 to $80 million for the full year of 2009, which,
while not as high as expected earlier in the year, is still a solid contribution in a demonstrably weak worldwide economy
The two-year EBITDA contribution on our acquisition of the former CITGO asphalt refineries, excluding the 2008 hedging loss in
our asphalt operations, is expected to be in the range of $200 to $230 million (or $140 million to $170 million including the
hedging loss)
Based on the latest forecast, we now expect third quarter 2009 earnings to be in the range of $0.80 to $1.20 per unit
NuStar Energy L.P. 2009 Outlook
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A tariff increase of 7.6% effective July 1, 2009, lower operating expenses and the start-up of the East
pipeline
project
in
June
2009
should
contribute
to
comparable
or
better
operating
income
in
2009
versus
2008 despite lower throughputs
Lower throughputs in 2009 have primarily been the result of the sale of pipeline assets, as well as planned turnarounds
and unplanned outages
Expect to see an uptick in fourth quarter throughputs compared to the third quarter of 2009, primarily due to a lighter
refinery maintenance schedule
Expect Stable Profits in Transportation Segment in 2009 Despite
Lower Throughputs Resulting Primarily from Assets Sales
Impact from sale of pipelines :
ConocoPhillips sale of their JV Interest in
the El Paso pipeline to Valero Energy in
2Q08 (~32 mbpd)
NuStar’s
sale of the Skelly-Belvieu
pipeline in 4Q08 (~12 mbpd)
NuStar’s
sale of the Trans-Texas and
Ardmore-Wynnewood pipelines in 2Q09
(~ 60 mbpd)
Revenue per barrel should be
significantly higher in 3Q09 primarily
due to 7.6% tariff increase and sale
of pipeline assets with a relatively
low revenue per barrel
E = Estimate
18
965-975
860-870
911
104
1,006
1,001
56
1,112
1,050
43
38
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Targeting an incremental $35 to $40 million of EBITDA in 2009 as
we benefit from a full year’s contribution primarily from completed
projects under our $400 million construction program and rate
increases on renewed contracts
Total annualized EBITDA contribution from $400 million construction
program expected to be in the range of $55 to $60 million
Of the $35 to $40 million increase in 2009, approximately 20 percent is
expected to come from rate increases and 80 percent from completed
storage projects
Expect
to
benefit
from
contango
markets
to
the
extent
that
certain
of our storage contract revenues are up for renewal:
29% -
1 Year or Less
28% -
1 to 3 Years
23% -
3 to 5 Years
19% -
Greater than 5 Years
Lower throughputs in our storage segment don’t necessarily
translate into weaker earnings since the majority of our business
is leased
Approximately 90% of our revenues in the storage segment come from
leased assets or assets connected to pipelines in our transportation
segment
St.
Eustatius
Terminal
13.0
mm
bbls
storage
capacity
Texas
City,
TX
Terminal
2.7
mm
bbls
storage
capacity
Expect Higher Profits in Storage Segment                       
in 2009 Despite Lower Throughputs
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Asphalt Fundamentals
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While Asphalt Supply Through June 2009 Continues to Remain Below Historical
Averages,
Asphalt
Demand
has
been
Trending
Lower…
Asphalt
Margins
Still Better Than Historical Margins Even Before Coker Impact
Unseasonably wet weather on the U.S. East Coast and weak public and private road demand due to the poor
economy has caused asphalt demand to lag compared to last year
Asphalt demand through June 2009 was over 12% lower than 2008 and nearly 25% below the 5-year average
Impact should result in a deferral and not a cancellation of road work projects
Continue
to
expect
a
positive
impact
to
asphalt
demand
primarily
in
2010
and
2011
when
most
of
the
stimulus
spending is expected to occur and economic recovery supports private sector demand
Asphalt
margins
have
already
improved
compared
to
history
even
before
the
coker
story
fully
kicks
in
2011-2012
U.S. Asphalt Demand (000 barrels)
Source:  U.S. Energy Information Administration.  Data only available through June 2009
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$3.78
$8.78
$5.50-$6.50
U.S. East Coast Product Margin ($ per barrel)
**
*
5,000
10,000
15,000
20,000
25,000
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
June
July
Aug
Sept
Oct
Nov
Dec
2006
2007
2008
2009
5-Year Avg.
*
2000 to 2007 is prior to NuStar’s acquisition of the former CITGO Asphalt Refineries and does not include GAAP accounting timing differences such as the financial impact from specific 
  
  winter-fill strategies.  
** Excludes impact from $61 million hedging loss incurred in 2008


Lower Asphalt Production and Imports Through                   
June 2009 Continue to Point to Below Average Supply
U.S. refiners have cut crude oil runs to avoid driving weak
margins lower, resulting in reduced refinery production,
including asphalt
Narrow light-heavy crude oil spreads are causing complex
refiners to run less heavy crude oil and more light crude oil,
resulting in less bottom-of-the barrel production, including
asphalt
Asphalt production through June 2009 was over 5% lower
than 2008 and over 17% lower than the 5-year average
U.S. Asphalt Production (000 barrels)
U.S. Asphalt Imports (000 barrels)
Continued lack of asphalt imports is also contributing
to less asphalt supply
Asphalt imports through June 2009 were nearly 19%
lower than 2008 and over 40% lower than the 5-year
average
Source of data for graphs:  U.S. Energy Information Administration.  Data only available through June 2009
0
1,000
2,000
3,000
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
June
July
Aug
Sept
Oct
Nov
Dec
5,000
10,000
15,000
20,000
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Nov
Dec
22
2006
2007
2008
2009
5-
Year Avg.
2006
2007
2008
2009
4-Year Avg.


Announced U.S. Coker Projects:
Despite Some Delays/Cancellations, Long-Term Impact of
Coker Projects on Asphalt Supply Still Intact
Source:  PIRA Refinery Database; Company Information
Approximately 95% of the announced coker
projects listed are either complete or have a high likelihood of
completion (i.e. firm projects)
Most of the coker
capacity is still expected to come on-line in 2011 and 2012, which should contribute to further
tightening of asphalt supply
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No.
Refinery
PADD
Announced Coker
Capacity (Mbpd)
Announced
Crude Capacity
(Mbpd)
Start Up
Date
Status
1
Coffeyville Resources -
Coffeyville, Kansas
II
2.0
8.0
1Q 2007
Complete
2
BP -
Toledo, Ohio
II
2.0
10.0
1Q 2007
Complete
3
Valero -
Port Arthur, Texas
III
25.0
75.0
1Q 2007
Complete
4
Frontier -
Cheyenne, Wyoming
IV
4.3
-
3Q 2007
Complete
5
Chevron -
El Segundo, California
V
15.0
-
4Q 2007
Complete
6
Sinclair –
Sinclair, Wyoming
IV
20.0
11.0
4Q 2007
Complete
7
ConocoPhillips -
Borger, Texas
III
25.0
-
4Q 2007
Complete
8
Cenex
-
Laurel, Montana
IV
15.0
-
1Q 2008
Complete
9
Frontier -
El Dorado, Kansas
II
3.0
11.0
2Q 2008
Complete
10
Tesoro -
Martinez, California
V
4.4
-
2Q 2008
Complete
11
ConocoPhillips -
Los Angeles, California
V
5.0
-
4Q 2008
Complete
12
Marathon -
Garyville, Louisiana
III
44.0
180.0
4Q 2009
Firm
13
Hunt -
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
III
18.5
15.0
3Q 2010
Firm
14
ConocoPhillips -
Wood River, Illinois
II
65.0
55.0
1Q 2011
Firm
15
Atofina
Petrochemicals Inc.-
Port Arthur, Texas
III
50.0
-
1Q 2011
Firm
16
BP/Husky -
Toledo, Ohio
II
25.0
-
1Q 2011
Firm
17
BP -
Whiting, Indiana
II
95.0
30.0
1Q 2012
Firm
18
Motiva -
Port Arthur, Texas
III
40.0
325.0
1Q 2012
Firm
19
Marathon -
Detroit, Michigan
II
28.0
13.0
2Q 2012
Probable
Total US Expansion
486.2
733.0
Expansions Completed through 2008
120.7
115.0
Firm
Expansions
2009
-
2012
337.5
605.0
Probable
Expansions
2009
-
2012
28.0
13.0


Strategy
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Execution of Game Plan…
We Intend to:
Financial
Maintain sufficient liquidity with
disciplined financial strategy near term
Work towards having negative outlook
removed from rating agency
Execute and deliver on capital projects
Maintain higher coverage ratio on
margin-related businesses
Continue to grow the distribution at NuStar Energy L.P. and NuStar GP Holdings, LLC
Operational
Continue to excel in safety and
environmental
Improve bottom-line by implementing
cost reductions and energy efficiency
programs
Continue to make NuStar one of the
top workplaces in the nation by taking
care of employees and giving back to
the communities
Corporate Culture
Asphalt
Pursue attractive production and
logistics opportunities to take
advantage of tight supply and demand
fundamentals
Implement projects to provide crude
flexibility and reduce seasonality
Maintain proportion of operating
income from margin-based and fee-
based assets
Storage
Pursue attractive opportunities to
either build or acquire storage facilities
both domestically and internationally
Continue to sign up long-term
contracts for new storage construction
Continue to take advantage of strong
demand for storage by leasing out
facilities at attractive rates
Evaluate attractive opportunities to
add incremental capacity and
increase utilization of assets in
growing markets that NuStar serves
Transportation
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One of the largest independent petroleum pipeline and terminal liquids operators in the world
Provides world class pipeline and terminalling services to some of the world’s largest crude oil producers, integrated
oil companies, chemical companies, oil traders and refineries
Pipeline and storage businesses are widely considered to somewhat recession resistant
One of the largest asphalt refiners and marketers in the U.S.
Expect to benefit from better-than-historic asphalt margins over the long-term as supply continues to tighten and
demand improves
Economic stimulus package expected to provide further growth in U.S. asphalt demand primarily in 2010 and 2011
Committed to investment grade rating and demonstrated access to capital in difficult markets
Fitch and Moody’s recently revised their outlook to stable from negative
Will continue to work with other rating agency to have negative outlook removed
Large and diversified asset footprint in the U.S. and internationally allows for ample acquisition
and internal growth opportunities
Capital
spending
forecast
has
been
increasing
as
capital
markets
improve
Expect to continue to have plenty of opportunities to grow the business over the next few years
Summary
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Questions & Answers


Reconciliation of Net Income to EBITDA to
Distributable Cash Flow
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The following is a reconciliation of income from continued operations to EBITDA and distributable cash flow:
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
Income from continuing operations
45,873
$            
55,143
$            
69,593
$            
78,418
$            
107,675
$          
149,906
$          
150,298
$          
254,018
$          
Plus interest expense, net
3,811
                
4,880
                
15,860
              
20,950
              
41,388
              
66,266
              
76,516
              
90,818
              
Plus income tax expense
-
                     
395
                    
-
                     
-
                     
4,713
                
5,861
                
11,448
              
11,006
              
Plus depreciation and amortization expense
13,390
              
16,440
              
26,267
              
33,149
              
64,895
              
100,266
            
114,293
            
135,709
            
EBITDA
63,074
              
76,858
              
111,720
            
132,517
            
218,671
            
322,299
            
352,555
            
491,551
            
Less equity earnings from joint ventures
3,179
                
3,188
                
2,416
                
1,344
                
2,319
                
5,882
                
6,833
                
8,030
                
Less interest expense, net
3,811
                
4,880
                
15,860
              
20,950
              
41,388
              
66,266
              
76,516
              
90,818
              
Less reliability capital expenditures
2,786
                
3,943
                
10,353
              
9,701
                
23,707
              
35,803
              
40,337
              
55,669
              
Less income tax expense
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
4,713
                
5,861
                
11,448
              
11,006
              
Plus mark-to-market impact on hedge transactions
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
3,131
                
(9,784)
               
Plus charges reimbursed by general partner
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
575
                    
-
                     
-
                     
Plus distributions from joint ventures
2,874
                
3,590
                
2,803
                
1,373
                
4,657
                
5,141
                
544
                    
2,835
                
Plus other non-cash items
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
2,672
                
-
                     
-
                     
-
                     
Distributable cash flow
56,172
$            
68,437
$            
85,894
$            
101,895
$          
153,873
$          
214,203
$          
221,096
$          
319,079
$          
Note:  2005 and 2006 distributable cash flow and EBITDA are from continuing operations.
Year Ended December 31,
NuStar Energy L.P. utilizes EBITDA, which is not defined in United States generally accepted accounting principles, as a financial measure because it is a widely
accepted financial indicator used by investors to compare partnership performance. In addition, management believes that this measure provides investors an
enhanced perspective of the operating performance of the partnership's assets and the cash that the business is generating. EBITDA is not intended to represent
cash flows for the period, nor is it presented as an alternative to operating income. EBITDA should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for a measure
of performance prepared in accordance with United States generally accepted accounting principles.
(Dollars in Thousands)


2009 Asphalt Operations EBITDA
Reconciliations
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(Dollars in Thousands)
Asphalt and Fuels
Marketing Segment
Less Non-Asphalt
Operations
Asphalt Operations
2009:
Projected operating income range
$     50,000 - $ 81,000
$     19,000 - $ 20,000
$     31,000 - $ 61,000
Plus projected depreciation and amortization expense
19,000
-
                              
19,000
Projected EBITDA range
$   69,000 - $ 100,000
$    19,000 - $ 20,000
$     50,000 - $ 80,000
2008:
Operating income
112,506
$                 
36,239
$                    
76,267
$                    
Plus depreciation and amortization expense
14,734
552
14,182
EBITDA
127,240
$                 
36,791
$                    
90,449
$                    
Combined 2009 and 2008:
Projected two-year operating income range
$    162,506 - 193,506
$         55,239 - 56,239
$    107,267 - 137,267
Plus projected two-year depreciation and
amortization expense
33,734
552
33,182
Projected two-year EBITDA range
      196,240 - 227,240
          55,791 - 56,791
      140,449 - 170,449
Plus hedging loss in 2Q08
60,704
-
                     
60,704
Projected two-year adjusted EBITDA range
$    256,944 - 287,944
$         55,791 - 56,791
$    201,153 - 231,153
EBITDA in the following reconciliation relates to our operating segments or a portion of an operating segment. For purposes of segment reporting we do
not allocate general and administrative expenses to our reported operating segments because those expenses relate primarily to the overall management
at the entity level. Therefore, EBITDA reflected in the following reconciliations excludes any allocation of general and administrative expenses consistent
with our policy for determining segmental operating income, the most directly comparable GAAP measure.


2009 Storage Segment EBITDA
Reconciliations
30
(Dollars in Thousands)
EBITDA in the following reconciliation relates to our operating segments or a portion of an operating segment. For purposes of segment reporting we 
do not allocate general and administrative expenses to our reported operating segments because those expenses relate primarily to the overall
management at the entity level. Therefore, EBITDA reflected in the following reconciliations excludes any allocation of general and administrative
expenses consistent with our policy for determining segmental operating income, the most directly comparable GAAP measure.
Storage Segment
Projected incremental operating income range
$       40,000 -
45,000
Plus projected incremental depreciation and
amortization expense
15,000
Projected incremental EBITDA range
$       55,000 -
60,000
Projected incremental operating income range
$    30,500 -
$ 35,500
Plus projected incremental depreciation and
amortization expense
4,500
Projected incremental EBITDA range
$    35,000 -
$ 40,000
The following is a reconciliation of projected incremental operating income to projected incremental EBITDA for the year ended 
December 31, 2009 for our storage segment:
Storage Segment
The following is a reconciliation of projected incremental operating income to projected incremental EBITDA on an annual basis related to our   
$400 million construction program for our Storage Operations: