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Benefit Plans (Details 6) (Foreign plans [Member], USD $)
In Thousands
12 Months Ended
Sep. 30, 2011
Sep. 30, 2010
Actual return on plan assets:  
Ending fair value$ 419,452$ 409,298
Equity Securities [Member]
  
Actual return on plan assets:  
Ending fair value215,309220,102
Equity Securities [Member] | Significant Unobservable Inputs (Level 3) [Member]
  
Changes in fair value of foreign pension assets measured using Level 3 inputs  
Beginning fair value267494
Actual return on plan assets:  
Relating to assets held at September 30, 2010 and 2011respectively(4)0
Relating to assets sold during the period0(199)
Purchases, sales and settlements, net07
Transfers in (out) from other categories0(3)
Exchange rate changes(5)(32)
Ending fair value258267
Real Estate [Member]
  
Actual return on plan assets:  
Ending fair value10,6889,486
Real Estate [Member] | Significant Unobservable Inputs (Level 3) [Member]
  
Changes in fair value of foreign pension assets measured using Level 3 inputs  
Beginning fair value9,4868,987
Actual return on plan assets:  
Relating to assets held at September 30, 2010 and 2011respectively46558
Relating to assets sold during the period0185
Purchases, sales and settlements, net1,363122
Transfers in (out) from other categories00
Exchange rate changes(207)(366)
Ending fair value10,6889,486
Insurance Contracts [Member]
  
Actual return on plan assets:  
Ending fair value78,34562,333
Insurance Contracts [Member] | Significant Unobservable Inputs (Level 3) [Member]
  
Changes in fair value of foreign pension assets measured using Level 3 inputs  
Beginning fair value62,24459,078
Actual return on plan assets:  
Relating to assets held at September 30, 2010 and 2011respectively2,6132,075
Relating to assets sold during the period00
Purchases, sales and settlements, net14,7100
Transfers in (out) from other categories924,866
Exchange rate changes(1,314)(3,775)
Ending fair value78,34562,244
Significant Unobservable Inputs (Level 3) [Member]
  
Changes in fair value of foreign pension assets measured using Level 3 inputs  
Beginning fair value71,99768,559
Actual return on plan assets:  
Relating to assets held at September 30, 2010 and 2011respectively2,6552,633
Relating to assets sold during the period0(14)
Purchases, sales and settlements, net16,073129
Transfers in (out) from other categories924,863
Exchange rate changes(1,526)(4,173)
Ending fair value$ 89,291$ 71,997