-----BEGIN PRIVACY-ENHANCED MESSAGE----- Proc-Type: 2001,MIC-CLEAR Originator-Name: webmaster@www.sec.gov Originator-Key-Asymmetric: MFgwCgYEVQgBAQICAf8DSgAwRwJAW2sNKK9AVtBzYZmr6aGjlWyK3XmZv3dTINen TWSM7vrzLADbmYQaionwg5sDW3P6oaM5D3tdezXMm7z1T+B+twIDAQAB MIC-Info: RSA-MD5,RSA, UUWDO0I0MiDRavjR9KYBRsybrRan2lGaXkgT3gPwdvp6zv7BYiRBk0zRCpI1YTMK TeCD0TSqJfoIOR9YXAVv0A== 0001104659-08-070178.txt : 20081112 0001104659-08-070178.hdr.sgml : 20081111 20081112160122 ACCESSION NUMBER: 0001104659-08-070178 CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: 8-K PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 6 CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT: 20081106 ITEM INFORMATION: Results of Operations and Financial Condition ITEM INFORMATION: Financial Statements and Exhibits FILED AS OF DATE: 20081112 DATE AS OF CHANGE: 20081112 FILER: COMPANY DATA: COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: UTSTARCOM INC CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0001030471 STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT, NEC [3669] IRS NUMBER: 521782500 STATE OF INCORPORATION: DE FISCAL YEAR END: 1231 FILING VALUES: FORM TYPE: 8-K SEC ACT: 1934 Act SEC FILE NUMBER: 000-29661 FILM NUMBER: 081180864 BUSINESS ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1275 HARBOR BAY PARKWAY STREET 2: STE 100 CITY: ALAMEDA STATE: CA ZIP: 94502 BUSINESS PHONE: 5108648800 MAIL ADDRESS: STREET 1: 1275 HARBOR BAY PARKWAY STREET 2: STE 100 CITY: ALAMEDA STATE: CA ZIP: 94502 8-K 1 a08-27790_18k.htm 8-K

 

 

UNITED STATES

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

Washington, D.C. 20549

 

FORM 8-K

 

CURRENT REPORT

 

Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934

 

Date of Report (Date of earliest event reported): November 6, 2008

 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

(Exact name of registrant as specified in its charter)

 

Delaware

 

000-29661

 

52-1782500

(State or other jurisdiction of
incorporation)

 

(Commission File Number)

 

(I.R.S. Employer Identification No.)

 

1275 Harbor Bay Parkway

Alameda, California 94502

(Address of principal executive offices)    (Zip code)

 

(510) 864-8800

(Registrant’s telephone number, including area code)

 

N/A

(Former name or former address, if changed since last report.)

 

Check the appropriate box below if the Form 8-K filing is intended to simultaneously satisfy the filing obligation of the registrant under any of the following provisions (see General Instruction A.2. below):

 

o  Written communications pursuant to Rule 425 under the Securities Act (17 CFR 230.425)

 

o  Soliciting material pursuant to Rule 14a-12 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14a-12)

 

o  Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 14d-2(b) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.14d-2(b))

 

o  Pre-commencement communications pursuant to Rule 13e-4(c) under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.13e-4(c))

 

 

 



 

Item 2.02  Results of Operations and Financial Condition. 

 

On November 6, 2008, UTStarcom, Inc. (the “Company”) issued a press release entitled “UTStarcom Releases Financial Results for the Third Quarter of 2008.”  A copy of the press release is furnished as Exhibit 99.1 to this report.  In the furnished press release, the reconciliation tables for GAAP gross margin to pro forma non-GAAP gross margin and for GAAP operating loss to pro forma non-GAAP operating loss each include corrected information in the column for Q4 2007.

 

On November 6, 2008, the Company held a conference call to discuss its financial results for the third quarter of 2008. A copy of the transcript of the conference call is furnished as Exhibit 99.2 to this report.  In the furnished transcript, the tax expense for the third quarter of 2008 and the percentage year-over year decline in the PAS infrastructure revenues, which were inadvertently reported inaccurately during the conference call, have been corrected.

 

The information in this Item 2.02, including the exhibits hereto, shall not be deemed “filed” for purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended (the “Exchange Act”), or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that section.  In addition, the information in this report shall not be incorporated by reference into any registration statement or other document filed under the Securities Act of 1933, as amended, or the Exchange Act, regardless of any general incorporating language in such filing, except as shall be expressly set forth by specific reference in such filing.

 

Item 9.01.      Financial Statements and Exhibits.

 

(d)   Exhibits

 

The following exhibits are furnished pursuant to Item 2.02:

 

Exhibit No.

 

Description

99.1

 

Press Release dated November 6, 2008

99.2

 

Transcript of Earnings Conference Call held November 6, 2008

 

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SIGNATURES

 

Pursuant to the requirements of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, the registrant has duly caused this report to be signed on its behalf by the undersigned hereunto duly authorized.

 

 

 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

 

 

 

 

Date: November 12, 2008

By:

/s/ Viraj Patel

 

Name:

Viraj Patel

 

Title:

Interim Chief Financial Officer

 

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Exhibit List

 

Exhibit No.

 

Description

99.1

 

Press Release dated November 6, 2008

99.2

 

Transcript of Earnings Conference Call held November 6, 2008

 

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EX-99.1 2 a08-27790_1ex99d1.htm EX-99.1

Exhibit 99.1

 

 

UTSTARCOM RELEASES FINANCIAL RESULTS FOR THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2008

Third Quarter 2008 Total Revenues of $181 Million

 

ALAMEDA, Calif., — November 6, 2008 – UTStarcom, Inc. (Nasdaq: UTSI) today reported financial results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2008.

 

On July 1, 2008 the company divested its Personal Communications Division (“PCD”) which has historically represented a significant portion of the company’s revenues. To enable a comparison of the financial results for the company on a year-over-year basis that reflects the PCD divestiture, the company has prepared certain pro forma non-GAAP results. The reconciliation between GAAP and these pro forma non-GAAP financial measures is provided at the end of this press release.

 

Net sales for the third quarter of 2008 were $181 million as compared to $646 million in the third quarter of 2007. Gross margins for the third quarter of 2008 and 2007 were 32.0% and 10%, respectively. The third quarter 2007 pro forma non-GAAP revenue and gross margins after adjusting for the PCD divestiture were $248 million and 16%, respectively. The decrease in revenues reflects the expected decline in our PAS business. The third quarter 2008 gross margins were positively impacted by our high margin NGN product and certain one time adjustments.

 

The operating loss for the third quarter of 2008 and 2007 was $34.9 million and $51.5 million, respectively. The third quarter 2007 pro forma non-GAAP operating loss after adjusting for the PCD divestiture was $68.8 million. The improvement in the operating loss for the third quarter of 2008 was primarily due to a reduction in year over year operating expenses.

 

During the third quarter 2008 the company incurred other expenses of $14.9 million consisting primarily of an unrealized loss of $10.6 million from currency devaluation and $4.3 million in write downs on long-term investments.

 



 

 

The net loss for the third quarter of 2008 was $55.9 million, or ($0.45) per share, as compared to a net loss of $55.3 million, or ($0.46) per share in the third quarter of 2007.

 

Net cash and cash equivalents as of September 30, 2008 was $331 million compared to $180 million on December 31, 2007. The increase reflects proceeds from the sale of PCD and certain short term investments partially offset by operating usage of cash.

 

“During the third quarter we continued to execute on our strategy of divesting our non-core businesses. As a result, we have reduced our operating expenses and greatly improved our balance sheet.” said Peter Blackmore, UTStarcom’s chief executive officer and president. “Meanwhile our lead IP-based infrastructure products continued to support telecom networks in our key geographic markets.”

 

Q4 2008 Guidance

 

The Company will provide fourth quarter financial guidance during the conference call.

 

Conference Call

 

The company will host a conference call to discuss the results. The call will take place at 2:00 p.m. (PST) / 5:00 p.m. (EST) on November 6, 2008. The conference call dial-in numbers are: United States and Canada 888-889-1058; International 706-634-2327. The conference ID number is 71195495.

 

A replay of the call will be available for 30 days. The conference call replay numbers are as follows: United States — 800-642-1687; International — 706-645-9291. The conference ID number is 71195495.

 

Investors will also have the opportunity to listen to the conference call and the replay over the Internet through the investor relations section of UTStarcom’s Web site at: http://www.utstar.com.

 



 

 

To listen to the live call, please go to the Web site at least 15 minutes early to register, and to download and install any necessary audio software. For those who cannot listen to the live broadcast, a replay will also be available on this site.

 

Discussion of Pro Forma Non-GAAP Financial Measures

 

UTStarcom has supplemented its condensed consolidated financial statements presented on a GAAP basis with pro forma non-GAAP revenues, gross profits, operating expenses and operating profit (loss) measures in order to present the company’s results as if PCD had been divested prior to each time period reflected below.

 

We believe use of these pro forma non-GAAP measures is appropriate to enable relevant year over year comparisons to our current financial results and is intended to provide both management and investors with a more complete understanding of UTStarcom’s underlying results and trends. In addition, these pro forma non-GAAP measures are among the information management uses as a basis for our planning and forecasting of future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

 

About UTStarcom, Inc.

 

UTStarcom is a global leader in IP-based, end-to-end networking solutions and international service and support. The company sells its solutions to operators in both emerging and established telecommunications markets around the world. UTStarcom enables its customers to rapidly deploy revenue-generating access services using their existing infrastructure, while providing a migration path to cost-efficient, end-to-end IP networks. Founded in 1991 and headquartered in Alameda, California, the company has research and development operations in the United States, China, Korea and India. For more information about UTStarcom, visit the company’s Web site at http://www.utstar.com.

 



 

 

Forward-Looking Statements

 

This release includes forward-looking statements, including the foregoing statements regarding the company’s strategy of divesting its non-core businesses, and expectations with respect to anticipated future results. These statements are forward-looking in nature and subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. These risks include the ability of the company to realize anticipated results of operational improvements and execute on its liquidity plans as well as risk factors identified in its latest Annual Report on Form 10-K, Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q and Current Reports on Form 8-K, as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

 

# # #

 

Company Contact

Barry Hutton

Senior Director, Investor Relations

UTStarcom, Inc.

(510) 769-2807

barry.hutton@utstar.com

 



 

UTStarcom, Inc.

Condensed Consolidated Balance Sheets

(in thousands)

(Unaudited)

 

 

 

September 30,

 

December 31,

 

 

 

2008

 

2007

 

ASSETS

 

 

 

 

 

Current assets:

 

 

 

 

 

Cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments

 

$

330,562

 

$

503,078

 

Accounts and notes receivable, net

 

166,831

 

343,525

 

Inventories and deferred costs

 

337,714

 

524,727

 

Prepaids and other current assets

 

149,181

 

121,636

 

Total current assets

 

984,288

 

1,492,966

 

Long-term assets:

 

 

 

 

 

Property, plant and equipment, net

 

203,411

 

209,094

 

Long-term deferred costs

 

156,789

 

164,766

 

Other long-term assets

 

96,651

 

117,762

 

Total assets

 

$

1,441,139

 

$

1,984,588

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

LIABILITIES, MINORITY INTEREST AND STOCKHOLDERS’ EQUITY

 

 

 

 

 

Current liabilities:

 

 

 

 

 

Accounts payable

 

$

135,995

 

$

148,440

 

Short-term debt

 

 

322,829

 

Customer advances

 

179,065

 

229,050

 

Deferred revenue

 

118,264

 

100,502

 

Other current liabilities

 

230,338

 

302,395

 

Total current liabilities

 

663,662

 

1,103,216

 

Long-term liabilities:

 

 

 

 

 

Long-term debt

 

 

333

 

Long-term deferred revenue and other liabilities

 

237,678

 

259,358

 

Total liabilities

 

901,340

 

1,362,907

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Minority interest in consolidated subsidiaries

 

789

 

3,705

 

Total stockholders’ equity

 

539,010

 

617,976

 

Total liabilities, minority interest and stockholders’ equity

 

$

1,441,139

 

$

1,984,588

 

 



 

UTStarcom, Inc.

Condensed Consolidated Statements of Operations

(in thousands, except per share amounts)

(Unaudited)

 

 

 

Three months ended September 30,

 

Nine months ended September 30,

 

 

 

2008

 

2007

 

2008

 

2007

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Net sales

 

$

180,607

 

$

646,494

 

$

1,399,352

 

$

1,660,640

 

Cost of net sales

 

123,280

 

582,061

 

1,167,998

 

1,441,193

 

Gross profit

 

57,327

 

64,433

 

231,354

 

219,447

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Operating expenses (income):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Selling, general and administrative

 

59,445

 

74,297

 

211,199

 

242,999

 

Research and development

 

35,971

 

41,881

 

116,657

 

127,700

 

Amortization of intangible assets

 

279

 

4,046

 

3,833

 

12,137

 

Net gain on divestitures

 

(3,455

)

(4,271

)

(3,455

)

(4,271

)

Total operating expenses

 

92,240

 

115,953

 

328,234

 

378,565

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Operating loss

 

(34,913

)

(51,520

)

(96,880

)

(159,118

)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interest income (expense), net

 

1,697

 

(5,859

)

(3,724

)

(11,601

)

Other income (expense), net

 

(14,943

)

4,347

 

38,107

 

8,476

 

Loss before income taxes and minority interest

 

(48,159

)

(53,032

)

(62,497

)

(162,243

)

Income tax expense

 

(7,791

)

(3,095

)

(7,396

)

(10,735

)

Minority interest in losses of consolidated subsidiaries

 

6

 

799

 

526

 

1,961

 

Net loss

 

$

(55,944

)

$

(55,328

)

$

(69,367

)

$

(171,017

)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Loss per share - Basic and diluted

 

$

(0.45

)

$

(0.46

)

$

(0.56

)

$

(1.41

)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weighted average shares used in per share calculation:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- Basic and diluted

 

123,884

 

121,011

 

123,036

 

120,965

 

 



 

UTStarcom, Inc.

Condensed Consolidated Statements of Cash Flows

(in thousands)

(Unaudited)

 

 

 

Nine months ended
September 30, 2008

 

Nine months ended
September 30, 2007

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Net cash used in operating activities

 

$

(31,872

)

$

(193,355

)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cash flows from investing activities:

 

 

 

 

 

Property, plant and equipment, net

 

(12,671

)

(22,530

)

Investments, net

 

(3,841

)

3,334

 

Proceeds from repayment of loan by a variable interest entity

 

7,728

 

 

Net proceeds from divestitures

 

207,097

 

4,271

 

Change in restricted cash

 

(10,380

)

7,273

 

Short-term investments, net

 

57,506

 

(8,962

)

Other

 

245

 

(115

)

Net cash provided by (used in) investing activities

 

245,684

 

(16,729

)

Cash flows from financing activities:

 

 

 

 

 

Borrowings, net

 

(325,317

)

33,045

 

Other

 

(7,907

)

6,028

 

Net cash (used in) provided by financing activities

 

(333,224

)

39,073

 

Effect of exchange rate changes on cash and cash equivalents

 

10,932

 

18,938

 

Net decrease in cash and cash equivalents

 

(108,480

)

(152,073

)

Cash and cash equivalents at beginning of period

 

437,449

 

661,623

 

Cash and cash equivalents at end of period

 

$

328,969

 

$

509,550

 

 



 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

RECONCILIATION OF GAAP REVENUE TO PRO FORMA NON-GAAP REVENUE

($ in millions)

(Unaudited)

 

To supplement our condensed consolidated financial statements presented on a GAAP basis, UTStarcom uses certain pro forma non-GAAP measures which are adjusted to present those metrics as if PCD had been divested prior to each time period reflected below.  We believe this enables year over year comparisons to our current financial results.  These adjustments to our GAAP results are made with the intent of providing both management and investors a more complete understanding of UTStarcom’s underlying results and trends.  In addition, these adjusted pro forma non-GAAP results are among the information management uses as a basis for our planning and forecasting of future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

 

Q3 2008 Earnings Conference Call - November 6, 2008

Reconciliation of 2007, Q1 2008 and Q2 2008 pro forma non-GAAP Information

$ in millions

 

 

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

Consolidated Revenue

 

 

 

as Reported in

 

as Reported in

 

as Reported in

 

for Q4 2007 as Derived

 

as Reported in

 

as Reported in

 

as Reported in

 

as Reported in

 

 

 

Q1 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2007 Form 10Q

 

from 10Qs & 10K 

 

Full Year 2007 Form 10K

 

Q1 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2008

 

GAAP Revenue

 

$

476

 

$

538

 

$

646

 

$

806

 

$

2,466

 

$

586

 

$

633

 

$

181

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Less: PCD Segment (a)

 

288

 

358

 

458

 

560

 

1,664

 

431

 

449

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add: Handset Sales to PCD (b)

 

77

 

70

 

60

 

53

 

260

 

35

 

56

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Non-GAAP Revenue

 

$

265

 

$

250

 

$

248

 

$

299

 

$

1,062

 

$

190

 

$

240

 

$

181

 

 


(a)

Effective July 1, 2008 the PCD segment was divested by the Company

 

 

(b)

The pro forma adjustment reflects estimated revenue from products sold to PCD, as if PCD was a third party entity. For consolidated reporting purposes these sales were considered intercompany sales and eliminated in consolidation.

 



 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

RECONCILIATION OF GAAP GROSS MARGIN TO PRO FORMA NON-GAAP GROSS MARGIN

($ in millions)

(Unaudited)

 

To supplement our condensed consolidated financial statements presented on a GAAP basis, UTStarcom uses certain pro forma non-GAAP measures which are adjusted to present those metrics as if PCD had been divested prior to each time period reflected below.  We believe this enables year over year comparisons to our current financial results.  These adjustments to our GAAP results are made with the intent of providing both management and investors a more complete understanding of UTStarcom’s underlying results and trends.  In addition, these adjusted pro forma non-GAAP results are among the information management uses as a basis for our planning and forecasting of future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

 

Q3 2008 Earnings Conference Call - November 6, 2008

Reconciliation of 2007, Q1 2008 and Q2 2008 pro forma non-GAAP Information

$ in millions

 

 

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

 

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM for Q4 2007 as Derived

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM as Reported in

 

GM as Reported in

 

 

 

Q1 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2007 Form 10Q

 

from 10Qs & 10K (c)

 

Full Year 2007 Form 10K

 

Q1 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2008

 

GAAP Gross Profit

 

$

75

 

$

80

 

$

64

 

$

102

 

$

321

 

$

92

 

$

82

 

$

57

 

GAAP Gross Margin %

 

16

%

15

%

10

%

13

%

13

%

16

%

13

%

32

%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Less: PCD Segment Gross Profit (a)

 

17

 

16

 

27

 

35

 

95

 

33

 

36

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add: Handsets Gross Profit from sales to PCD (b)

 

1

 

2

 

2

 

2

 

7

 

2

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Total Non-GAAP Gross Profit

 

$

59

 

$

66

 

$

39

 

$

69

 

$

233

 

$

61

 

$

46

 

$

57

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Non-GAAP Gross Margin %

 

22

%

26

%

16

%

23

%

22

%

32

%

19

%

32

%

 


(a)

Effective July 1, 2008 the PCD segment was divested by the Company

 

 

(b)

The pro forma adjustment reflects estimated gross profit from products sold to PCD, as if PCD was a third party entity. For consolidated reporting purposes these sales were considered intercompany sales and eliminated in consolidation.

 

 

(c)

Editor’s Note: column contains corrected information.

 



 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

RECONCILIATION OF GAAP OPERATING EXPENSES TO PRO FORMA NON-GAAP OPERATING EXPENSES

($ in millions)

(Unaudited)

 

To supplement our condensed consolidated financial statements presented on a GAAP basis, UTStarcom uses certain pro forma non-GAAP measures which are adjusted to present those metrics as if PCD had been divested prior to each time period reflected below.  We believe this enables year over year comparisons to our current financial results.  These adjustments to our GAAP results are made with the intent of providing both management and investors a more complete understanding of UTStarcom’s underlying results and trends.  In addition, these adjusted pro forma non-GAAP results are among the information management uses as a basis for our planning and forecasting of future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

 

Q3 2008 Earnings Conference Call - November 6, 2008

Reconciliation of 2007, Q1 2008 and Q2 2008 pro forma non-GAAP Information

$ in millions

 

 

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

 

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX for Q4 2007 as Derived from

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

OPEX as Reported in

 

 

 

Q1 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2007 Form 10Q

 

10Qs & 10K

 

Full Year 2007 Form 10K

 

Q1 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2008

 

GAAP Operating Expenses

 

$

128

 

$

135

 

$

116

 

$

155

 

$

534

 

$

123

 

$

113

 

$

92

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Less: PCD Operating Expense (a)

 

9

 

8

 

7

 

7

 

31

 

8

 

8

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Non-GAAP Operating Expense

 

$

119

 

$

127

 

$

109

 

$

148

 

$

503

 

$

115

 

$

105

 

$

92

 

 


(a) Effective July 1, 2008 the PCD segment was divested by the Company

 



 

UTSTARCOM, INC.

RECONCILIATION OF GAAP OPERATING LOSS TO PRO FORMA NON-GAAP OPERATING LOSS

($ in millions)

(Unaudited)

 

To supplement our condensed consolidated financial statements presented on a GAAP basis, UTStarcom uses certain pro forma non-GAAP measures which are adjusted to present those metrics as if PCD had been divested prior to each time period reflected below.  We believe this enables year over year comparisons to our current financial results.  These adjustments to our GAAP results are made with the intent of providing both management and investors a more complete understanding of UTStarcom’s underlying results and trends.  In addition, these adjusted pro forma non-GAAP results are among the information management uses as a basis for our planning and forecasting of future periods. The presentation of this additional information is not meant to be considered in isolation or as a substitute for results prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles in the United States.

 

Q3 2008 Earnings Conference Call - November 6, 2008

Reconciliation of 2007, Q1 2008 and Q2 2008 pro forma non-GAAP Information

$ in millions

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Consolidated

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Consolidated

 

 

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Operating Loss for Q4 2007

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Consolidated

 

Operating Loss

 

 

 

Operating Loss From

 

Operating Loss From

 

Operating Loss From

 

as Derived from

 

Operating Loss From

 

Operating Loss From

 

Operating Loss From

 

as Reported in

 

 

 

Q1 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2007 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2007 Form 10Q

 

10Qs & 10K (c)

 

Full Year 2007 Form 10K

 

Q1 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q2 2008 Form 10Q

 

Q3 2008

 

GAAP Operating Loss

 

$

(52

)

$

(55

)

$

(52

)

$

(53

)

$

(212

)

$

(31

)

$

(31

)

$

(35

)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Less: PCD Segment Gross Profit (a)

 

17

 

16

 

27

 

35

 

95

 

33

 

36

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add: Handsets Gross Profit from sales to
PCD (b)

 

1

 

2

 

2

 

2

 

7

 

2

 

0

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Add: PCD Operating Expense (a)

 

9

 

8

 

7

 

7

 

31

 

8

 

8

 

0

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Non-GAAP Operating Loss

 

$

(59

)

$

(61

)

$

(70

)

$

(79

)

$

(269

)

$

(54

)

$

(59

)

$

(35

)

 

(a) Effective July 1, 2008 the PCD segment was divested by the Company

 

(b) The pro forma adjustment reflects estimates from activities with
PCD, as if PCD was a third party entity. For consolidated reporting purposes
these activities were considered intercompany and eliminated in
consolidation.

 

(c) Editor’s Note: column contains corrected information.

 


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Exhibit 99.2

 

FINAL TRANSCRIPT

 

 

Conference Call Transcript

UTSI - Q3 2008 UTStarcom Earnings Conference Call

 

Event Date/Time: Nov. 06. 2008 / 5:00PM ET

 

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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS

 

Barry Hutton

UTStarcom Incorporated - Senior Director of IR

 

Peter Blackmore

UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Viraj Patel

UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS

 

Paul Wehner

DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

Andrew Rosenberg

Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Rob Galtman

Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

PRESENTATION

 

Operator

 

Good afternoon. My name is Phyllis, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the UTStarcom Q3 2008 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions). Thank you.

 

Mr. Hutton, you may begin your conference.

 

Barry Hutton  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Senior Director of IR

 

Thank you and good afternoon, everyone. This is Barry Hutton. I’m the — UTStarcom’s Senior Director of Investor Relations. Again, I want to apologize for the delay in starting the call this afternoon. There were some delays in getting our filings across the news wires, which did happen at 5:00 Eastern time. We wanted to give you a little bit of time to review those results before the call.

 

With me today, I have Peter Blackmore, our Chief Executive Officer, and he will provide an update on our Company, including highlights relative to certain key business units. Viraj Patel is our interim Chief Financial Officer, and he will give the segment details of our Q3 financial results and fourth quarter guidance. And then finally, before opening the call for questions, Peter will close with some brief comments about 2009.

 

Before the call begins formally, I’d like to remind everyone that some of the information we will discuss today constitutes forward-looking statements. Actual results could differ materially from our current expectations. To understand the risks that could cause results to differ, please refer to the Risk Factors identified in our latest annual report on Form 10-K, our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and current reports on Form 8-K, which are filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

 

In addition, today’s call will include certain pro forma non-GAAP financial results, the most directly comparable GAAP information, and the reconciliation between the pro forma non-GAAP and GAAP figures is attached to the earnings release issued today. The reconciliation is also available on our website in the Investor Relations section.

 

And now I’d like to turn the call over to Peter.

 

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Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Good afternoon, everybody. And thank you for joining our call. This afternoon, we issued our third quarter financial results, which included revenues of $181 million, which did meet our guidance. Our gross margins of 32% and operating expenses of $92 million were both favorable to our guidance. Our operating expenses declined by $24 million year-over-year, reflecting the actions in recent months, and we reduced our quarter three operating loss to $35 million.

 

In addition, I’d like to highlight that as of September 30, we had a net cash position of $331 million. This is $150 million increase in net cash compared to December 31 of last year, and clearly the stronger balance sheet will be an advantage during the current uncertainty in the financial markets.

 

I now would like to look briefly at our corporate strategy and business unit detail. As you know, we are in very volatile economic times. In this environment, it is very important that our management team remains focused on executing the Company’s strategic plan.

 

During the third quarter, we hit some very important milestones along the way and we expect to achieve more of these in quarter four in early 2009. In order to emphasize our competitive position, I want to highlight our strategic priorities, which tie directly to our business model and long-term prospects.

 

Our strategic priority has been to streamline the Company and create an increased focus on the IP-based products and services, which specifically include IPTV, next generation networks, and the IP broadband offerings. During the third quarter, we rationalized some of our non-core assets. On July 1, we sold our Personal Communications division in a deal that effectively ended the Company’s activities as an equipment distributor.

 

And then on July 31st, we completed the announced divestiture of the IP CDMA portion of our mobile solutions business unit. There is additional rationalization to complete, and rest assured that we shall continue to take action to remove any intellectual property that will not deliver value in the near-term, at the same time we will further reduce our cost base.

 

Our second strategic priority is growing our leadership position in the rapidly developing economies across Asia, Latin America and parts of Eastern Europe. We have particularly strong presence in China and India, and these regions tend to have a strong drive for new technologies and want to build out their telecom networks as a national focal point of their government.

 

We have not yet seen significant reduction in the CapEx budgets for new technology in the major Tier 1 carriers in these two countries. Like everyone else, we are watching this closely, but clearly, we are better positioned in our choice of target geographies than many companies.

 

In China, we continue to be the market leader in IPTV, and very importantly, we have made our first entrance into China’s cable market, and I will discuss that more when I highlight our multimedia communication activities.

 

China’s industry restructuring has shifted responsibilities among the carriers, and UTStarcom has benefited by getting new business for PDSN, which I’ll also refer to later. Our third strategic priority is maintaining strong carrier relationships, through which we deliver products in our key markets.

 

Especially in times of economic uncertainty, carriers want to work with partners they known and trust. Part of our sales strategy is to cross-sell and upsell services to our current customer base. The trust that our customers have in UTStarcom is evidenced at the multiple contract expansions and products we sell recently from current customers such as China Telecom, BSNL and Brazil Telecom.

 

Our fourth priority is to maintain a strong balance sheet. Considering where we started in 2008, I’m particularly pleased with our September position. In March, we fully repaid the $290 million in convertible notes and interest, and during the third quarter, we repaid all of our short-term debt. In the light of the rapid deterioration in the financial markets, our ability to complete the PCD divestiture in July has clearly been advantageous.

 

And as I said, I’m pleased to say that as of September 30, our balance sheet had $331 million in cash and short-term investments against zero debt.

 

Now let’s look at the business units in a little more detail, starting with the multimedia communications business unit. This business unit continues to perform well. The Olympics were a clear test of our IPTV systems, technological scope and capacity, and our success in this test is indicated by letters of acknowledgment from China Netcom, China Unicom, and BestTV.

 

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As of September 30, our global IPTV system had 1.1 million subscribers. This represents a 15% growth since June 30 and since the beginning of the year, 57% growth.

 

In the IPTV area, we have three meaningful achievements. First, we’ve had another example of moving from initial pilot to deployment in a major province in China, as we have already done with Shanghai. We won an important expansion contract with China Telecom in the Fujian Province, which further illustrates our ability to obtain repeat business from the existing client base.

 

Second, we have a breakthrough in the cable market in China with a new contract in a key province. This is important, as of December 2007, the China cable market served approximately 160 million households. So, our ability to enter this market presents a strategic advantage relative to future opportunities.

 

Thirdly, we continue to leverage existing R&D and IPTV into related areas. In October, we announced our second contract for an IP advertising system. This was with Best Tone, a subsidiary of China Telecom. This IPTV advertising systems use our existing R&D investments and the IPTV capabilities to expand the customer relationships and obtain new revenue streams.

 

This year, the project will create a video information network with 3,500 terminals in office buildings, supermarkets, and schools across the Hunan Province. By the end of the project, we expect to support over 10,000 terminals in this region.

 

Similar to IPTV, the multimedia segment has also had success in the area of next generation networks, both in new contracts and deployments. A year ago, Brazil Telecom launched its IPTV services with us. In September, we expanded the relationship by using our NGN solution to power their fixed mobile convergence network.

 

As customers move from fixed line to wireless devices, our technology helps Brazil Telecom retain more callers on its network. And as a result, NGN enables Brazil Telecom to have better customer retention and revenue opportunities. We believe our growing reputation in Latin America will lead to more opportunities in this region.

 

And finally, in the PDSN area, we are excited that we have won the largest share of the PDSN market in China at 40%.

 

In India, moving to the broadband business unit, BSNL has formally awarded us a contract for its Phase II, Multiplay project, which we did allude to in the last earnings call. Our third quarter bookings include approximately $70 million for this contract, which covers many of our products including DSLAM, MSAN, RPR and CPE. In the fourth quarter, we expect to receive additional purchase orders on this contract valued at between $5 million to $10 million.

 

As we have discussed before, certain aspects of the Phase I contract caused us to incur some financial charges at the time. I want to make it clear that we have learned some lessons that will help us to better manage Phase II, and I’d like to point a few of these aspects out.

 

We have a better pricing structure, including an improved mix of products, which we expect to lead to high gross margins. We are proactively taking efforts to mitigate shipping costs. We started building the equipment earlier in the process. This gave us the extra time to ship equipment by sea instead of by air, thereby reducing these costs substantially.

 

And on Phase II, we have much stronger project management. During Phase I, we learned to better anticipate project time lines and requirements in what is a very complex roll-out. And in planning the execution of this contract, we have structured the contract milestones accordingly for Phase II.

 

I am also pleased to see recent broadband success in the Middle East region, which we are working to develop. Last quarter, we won two contracts in the Middle East, and these were a Tier 1 carrier in Israel named Bezeq. They awarded us an initial MSAN order, and we had competition from Alcatel Lucent, ECI and Teledata, as we won that contract. And in addition, Yemen Telecom also gave us an order for MSAN. And in this case, we beat Huawei and Alcatel Lucent. Both of these represent new customers to UTStarcom.

 

Let me briefly comment on handsets. Following the July divestiture of PCD, our handset segment now includes two businesses. First, we continue to provide PAS terminals to China. As we’ve stated before, the PAS handsets business is declining, as the industry looks towards 3G networks. We are launching a number of CDMA handsets for 2009 in China.

 

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And the second business follows our divestiture of PCD. And the third quarter of 2008 was the first time period in which our Korean handsets unit, who design and build these units, recalled these third party sales. Viraj will discuss how this different business model impacts revenue margins at OpEx levels.

 

I’d now like to move to some important new executive hires. As you know, Viraj Patel has been appointed our interim CFO, after serving as our Controller and Chief Accounting Officer since 2005, and he also has previous CFO experience. Craig Samuel joined us as the Senior Vice President of Business Strategy and Innovation. And in this new role, Craig will manage the effort to develop emerging product opportunities, maximize our intellectual property portfolio, and oversee further rationalization of the Company.

 

Our new Senior Vice President of International Sales and Marketing will formally join us on Monday, November 10. Luis Dominguez has extensive experience in Latin America and Asia, and is well-established with a range of telecommunication customers. He joins us from Unisys, where he is the General Manager of Worldwide Regional Sales and Operations, and has a very strong background in telecommunications as well.

 

We are also strengthening our sales and marketing efforts in China, where we have hired a Senior Sales Executive to complement Robert Wu’s ongoing leadership role as a COO of China. So there it is, we are strengthening our sales and go-to-market activities.

 

And lastly, we hired a new Senior Vice President of Supply Chain last month. HT Goh joined us from the Venture Corporation where he served as the Director of the Global Supply Chain. HT will be based in our Hangzhou, China office, and I’ve every confidence he will drive further efficiencies in our global supply chain.

 

Now I’d like to turn the call over to Viraj to discuss third quarter results and our fourth quarter guidance.

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

Thanks, Peter. Good afternoon. As you know, this is the first quarter for which we are reporting results without PCD. In order to make the year-over-year comparisons relevant, I will refer to certain non-GAAP results, which have been adjusted to reflect 2000 results, as if PCD were a separate entity at that time.

 

As Barry mentioned earlier, we have prepared a non-GAAP reconciliation covering each of those metrics for each of the quarters for 2007 through the current quarter. Those tables are attached to the earnings release issued earlier this afternoon and is also on our website.

 

In the third quarter, we had revenues of $181 million compared to non-GAAP revenues of $248 million a year ago. This result is impacted by areas in which we had previously expected declines, mainly PAS infrastructure and PAS handsets.

 

We did see revenue growth in our IPTV solutions and NGN solutions in this quarter compared to the quarter earlier year. Gross margins in the period were 32%, were much stronger than the non-GAAP gross margin of 16% recorded last year. The strong margin results in Q3 were driven by increased sales of high margin NGN product and certain other one-time activities, such as supplier rebates and reduction in our third party commissions. In contrast, the 2007 results were negatively impacted by certain one-time charges, including some planned exit of non-core products.

 

Regarding operating expenses, our efforts to reduce the expense levels was successful in the third quarter, as OpEx came at $92 million, including a $3.5 million net gain from a divestiture. So our OpEx run rate is $96 million for quarter three.

 

More importantly, the third quarter results reflect the ongoing operational improvements as well as reduction expenses related to certain legacy issues that we expect to benefit from going forward. The third quarter 2008 OpEx levels represent a reduction of $17 million compared to Q2; a $24 million reduction compared to 3Q of last year.

 

This results in a third quarter operating loss of $35 million compared to $51.5 million a year ago. Below the operating loss line, we did recognize an unrealized loss of $11 million from currency devaluations, and a $4 million in write-off related to our long-term investments. These items are recorded in the other expense line. Our net interest income is $1.7 million, reflecting a higher cash balance following the divestiture of PCD and lower interest expense, as we had repaid all our debt during the year.

 

We incurred a tax expense of $7.8 million [Editor’s note: the dollar amount has been corrected] for the quarter. Net-net our net loss was about $56 million or $0.45 loss per share in this period compared to $55 million last year or $0.46 loss per share from a year ago period.

 

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Before I discuss the segmented results, I will highlight our cash usage and our cash position. For the nine months ending September, we have used $32 million of cash flow from operations. This year-to-date usage reflects our operating losses offset by strong working capital management earlier in the year. In addition, the investing section of our cash flow reflects roughly $275 million in proceeds from divesting PCD and sale of certain short-term investments during the year.

 

As a result, our September 30 net cash position is $331 million, reflecting the fact that we have repaid all our debt during the year. As Peter mentioned, this reflects about $150 million improvement in our net cash as compared to December 31.

 

With that context of the consolidated Company, I will give you some information on the segment information. As you know, our Company provides a range of products and services to customers globally. In late 2007, we reorganized our Company and certain business units to better align the corporate structure with our strategy.

 

At this point, I will give you some color regarding the results and drivers for our major business segments.

 

Our multimedia communications business unit manages our activities related to IPTV solutions, next generation networks, and PAS infrastructure products. Revenues in quarter three were $58 million compared to $58 million a year ago. As expected, we did see the continued decline in our PAS infrastructure revenues, as China continues to move toward a 3G system. The PAS year-over-year decline was about 25% [Editor’s note: the percentage has been corrected]. However, we did see growth in our IPTV systems and NGN products, which partially offset the PAS reductions in the quarter.

 

The multimedia communications business unit gross margins were 53% compared to 29% last year. This margin improvement is largely due to sale of our high margin NGN products and a $4 million reduction in accrued third party commissions. Comparatively, the margins in the PAS infrastructure were better this quarter — they were better this quarter compared to 2007, although the sales for PAS had declined.

 

Our broadband business unit, which is responsible for both software and hardware products that provide access to high-speed and cost-effective data, voice and media communications. The lead products in this segment include MSAN, GEPON and MSTP. In the third quarter, broadband revenue were $31 million versus $41 million in Q3 of last year.

 

As noted in our last conference call, the year over decline in this segment is primarily in the CPE product line. Last year, CPE sales were driven by an ADSL expansion by Softbank in Japan. As you know, our large contracts with BSNL cover multiple years of implementation. And these significant amount of revenues will be recognized upon completion of the work.

 

Gross margins in the third quarter were 10%. In the year ago period, the gross margins were negative 12%, which reflected inventory and contract reserves that were taken against the infrastructure project in India.

 

I’ll now move on to the handset segment. As Peter stated, you should think of our handset business as two operations — historically, the segment revenues from selling PAS handsets in China. The revenues from this operation have declined in recent years, as the industry moved towards new technologies. The PAS revenue decline was approximately 40% year-over-year, in line with our previous communicated expectations.

 

The second part of the segment involves our Korea operations, which continues to sell as a supplier to the divested PCD business in North America, for the first time in the quarter totaling $35 million in Q3 of this year. Combining these two operations generated Q3 revenue of $72 million versus $59 million last year. The gross margins for the segment were 21% for this year versus 29% last year. The low margins reflect the shift of the product mix from PAS-only to PAS and handset mix in the most recent period.

 

Our book-to-bill ratio for this quarter is 1.2, which includes a very large order for BSNL Phase II, as Peter had mentioned earlier.

 

I’ll move on to the balance sheet items. Before I point out a few of the key balance sheet items, I’d like to remind you that these metrics are not easily comparable to prior periods. Clearly, the PCD divestiture removed a significant amount of our working capital items from the balance sheet in Q3.

 

Our September 30 cash equivalents and short-term investments stood at $331 million, which includes the cash portion in our PCD divestiture. And this amount represents our net cash because during the period, we repaid the last of our outstanding debt. The September 30 balance reflects $150 million improvement in net cash as compared to the beginning of the year.

 

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Our quarter net accounts and notes receivable were $167 million, giving us the day sales outstanding of 76, which is approximately equal to what we had at Q2.

 

Cash flow from operations. In the nine months ended September 30, we used $32 million in cash flow from operations. This year, operational cash flow usage has been primarily driven by three main factors.

 

First, we have a recorded loss of $69 million through year-to-date, which obviously affects the — has a negative implication on our cash flows. The second major factor is a significant purchase of equipment we have made for the Phase II contract in India. Recall that this is the infrastructure contract, which is in one of our key markets that is strategically important contract for us.

 

And finally, you recall that during the first half of 2008, we generated $60 million cash from operations though some strong working capital management actions primarily related to our PCD operations.

 

Despite the net usage of $32 million year-to-date cash flow from operations, our net cash position as of September 30 was $331 million, which was about a $150 million increase in net cash compared to the beginning of the year. This was, of course, primarily driven by the sale of PCD in Q3, the proceeds of which are reflected in the cash flow from investing activity in our cash flow statement that is attached to the release.

 

I will now turn over to fourth quarter guidance. Before I make some comments on the fourth quarter guidance, I want to acknowledge that the economic uncertainty that we are operating in today and the potential it could impact our business.

 

As Peter stated, roughly 70% of our business is based in China and India — two countries that are still projected to have economic growth in 2009. To date, we have not seen the Tier 1 carriers in these countries make cuts to their CapEx plans.

 

With that in context, here is our expectations for Q4. Total revenues should be in the range of approximately $215 million to $235 million. Gross margins should be in the low to mid-20s range, which reflects the anticipated shift in the product mix, which will include more handsets.

 

The operating expenses are likely to be approximately $95 million with an ongoing emphasis on cost containment and reductions. During the fourth quarter, we do plan to initiate certain actions, which will lead to meaningful OpEx reductions in early 2009. We expect our Q4 cash flow from operation usage will be approximately $35 million to $45 million, which will bring our full year estimate of usage to roughly $75 million, which is better than our original initial anticipation of cash usage in the earlier call.

 

I know that many of you have asked us about our use of cash plans for 2009. This quarter, as always, management and the Board carefully evaluated all uses of cash including a potential share repurchase. After careful consideration of many factors, including the current economic environment, we have decided not to do a stock buyback. We believe the Company is best served by maintaining a strong cash position. This allows us to maintain the flexibility while we continue to invest for the organic growth.

 

At this point, I’d like to turn over the call back to Peter for closing remarks before we take your Q&A.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Thanks, Viraj. Before I open the call for Q&A, I wanted to acknowledge that I did previously commit to providing you with further information on our 2009 business model.

 

In the last three months, we have done extensive analysis of the bookings outlook for 2009 across all regions. Apparently, we continue to see bookings growth in the developing countries despite the challenges in the global economy. As we have said, 70% of our business is in China and India. And if we add in the other developing economies we market in, in Asia and Latin America, the consolidated number is 85%. China and India continue to have a positive GDP estimates for 2009, and as a result, we are better positioned than many companies.

 

We remain confident in our strategy, which focuses on IPTV, NGN Softswitch, and IP broadband in these target markets. Based on this, we continue to see positive growth in bookings in 2009 and currently, we estimate these at 10% plus. We shall continue to review this. We are also assessing revenue growth. Historically, it’s been easy for us to forecast bookings versus revenue and obviously, we want to get both right.

 

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Our quarterly run rate on operating expenses has improved a lot in 2008 with the actions we have taken, but clearly, we need a further significant reduction in 2009. To that end, we are developing specific initiatives, which will reduce our 2009 operating run rate by 15% to 20%. We shall have a call on these details later in the quarter, so that you can model 2009 better.

 

And now I’d like to ask the Operator to open the call for questions. Operator?

 

QUESTION AND ANSWER

 

Operator

 

(Operator Instructions). Paul Wehner, DLS Capital.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

You talked a little bit about the Korean handset division. Is that - All in is that cash flow positive?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

The part in China is cash flow positive. The part in Korea that serves our PCD is not cash flow positive.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

Is there — I guess the question is how quickly can you make that cash flow positive? When do you have to make the decision whether you make that cash flow positive or get rid of it?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

We will be making a decision on the Korea TBU this quarter. It’s not made yet, but that is also one of the things we’d include in the call later this quarter, because clearly we have to make sure that business is positive in 2009.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

Will you be in a position to tell us how much of an impact that might have?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Now or later in the quarter?

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

No, if you’re going to do it later in the quarter, will it be that much detail?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Yes, we will. We’ll absolutely give you the detail then, Paul.

 

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Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

The $331 million in cash — does that include any of the — I believe it was $24 million that was held in escrow? Has any of that been released?

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

No, it doesn’t include any money in the escrow.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

And when are the terms and times for that last $24 million?

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

They’re basically — we basically like to break it in two pieces. One of them has to do with some certain closing conditions that we are in the process of finalizing with AIG. And the other $10 million gets removed a year from now after the sale of the business.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

So is it safe to say that that $14 million we might see by the end of the year?

 

Barry Hutton  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Senior Director of IR

 

Yes, I would say so.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Yes, potentially. It depends on the closing conditions.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

And then the $10 million some time in ‘09.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Correct.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

Now, that $14 million — I assume that the minus $35 million to $45 million you talked — that’s strictly cash flow from operations so if you got the $14 million back, that would be slightly better in terms of total cash burn?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Yes.

 

Paul Wehner  - DLS Capital Management - Analyst

 

Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

 

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Operator

 

Andrew Rosenberg, Footprints Asset Management.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Thanks for taking my question. I have a quick question on the $70 million you recognize in the BSNL contract for the quarter. How much of that flows through into revenues for the fourth — is all of that going to come in revenues in the fourth quarter?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

No, no, that was just a booking. A lot of the equipment is in the process of being delivered this quarter and next quarter. But the revenue recognition for that is tied to milestones in the contract. So it will come late 2009, and 2010.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

So there’s none of that? Or just a small portion would be in the fourth I guess?

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

There is no — this is Viraj, Andrew — there is no revenue in the Q4 numbers.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

There’s nothing there? All right.

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

So, as I’d mentioned in part of my comments, these are multiple year implementations and these are large contracts, so the revenue recognition happens after the completion of the implementation cycles.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Understood. I guess, looking on that same contract, the margin profile I know you mentioned that it should be better, of course, from last year, but is it will it be better than the 10% that you had this quarter for that one specific BSNL deal?

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

I would expect it to be in the single — the low teens — I mean single digits, actually.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Okay. And then Peter, you’d mentioned I guess the OpEx cuts 15% to 20%. How easy is that to do? Is there restrictions in China that prevent you from doing certain layoffs, certain cuts there or no?

 

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Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Well, we didn’t specifically mention where they would come from. What I would do is in the call later in the quarter, we can be explicit where we get that from. We are very confident about the 15% to 20%, but obviously not ready to announce the details today. There aren’t any particular restrictions in China for reducing headcount. The markets we operate on, it’s fairly straightforward to manage that type of production if you need to do it, Andrew.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Okay. And then can I ask you — I know you mentioned the China cable being kind of a new market for you guys. How big is that in terms of revenue? Is it small? Is it —?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

The initial contract is less than $5 million, but it was very strategically important because we’ve broken into the cable market internationally with an order in Markwell, in Taiwan. We haven’t broken into the cable market in China. We’ve seen it has a lot of potential from talking to this particular customer and other customers. So that’s why we mentioned it.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Is there any more of those out there in the —?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

We are bidding on additional ones now, yes.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Okay. And then one final question, I guess just more of kind of a big picture on the competitive landscape. How rational is pricing right now with some of your competitors that you see? Is it —?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

It continues to be tough. So on these big contracts for broadband products, it continues to be very competitive. So we pick and choose which ones we go after. Despite competitive pricing on IPTV and NGN, we continue to have a very strong margin structure. And we haven’t yet seen that impacted despite the competition. It’s primarily there we are selling software. So software traditionally has a much better margin profile.

 

Andrew Rosenberg  - Footprints Asset Management - Analyst

 

Okay, thanks for taking my questions.

 

Operator

 

(Operator Instructions). Bill Choi, Jefferies & Co.

 

Barry Hutton  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Senior Director of IR

 

Hi, Bill. Good to hear from you. Bill, are you there?

 

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Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Hi, Barry. This is Rob, actually, in for Bill. Just had a few quick questions for you. So, I noticed a couple of times that you mentioned that you haven’t really seen any kind of impact with everything that’s going on in the macro from the Tier 1 carriers, but anything from maybe the smaller guys, the Tier 2 and Tier 3 players? I guess specifically in India? Are you seeing any kind of slowdown there?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Not in India or China. There are other that’s why I said, 70% of our business comes from India and China, and so far, we’re pleased to say we haven’t seen impact. So we’ll watch it very carefully but so far, that’s the position there, Rob.

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

Rob, this is Viraj. The other thing I’d like to say is most of our customers that are in India, they have very strong financial conditions. We haven’t seen any affected.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Really, it’s the big five telco’s there. It’s BSNL, MTNL, Tata, Bharti and Reliance — and they’re very strong.

 

Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Okay. And on the handset side of things, I know you broke this out, I think I missed it — did you say the CDMA sales in the quarter were $35 million?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

No, it was the — we broke it into the parts of China, which were still primarily PAS in the quarter. I just made the comment about CDMA because that’s PAS declines. The obvious question is, how do you replace those revenue streams? And we’re launching CDMA handsets. We’re launching two late quarter fall for revenues in 2009. And then we have additional handset — CDMA handsets in 2009, so we can build up our revenue stream to replace PAS. That was the comment.

 

Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Okay. Was the Korean-based business — was that the $35 million?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Oh, yes. Sorry, excuse me, I misunderstood. Yes, that is the $35 million. Yes, that’s correct.

 

Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Okay, got it. And how does that compare to last year?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

That’s lower than last year.

 

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Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

That’s lower than last year. If you look at our pro forma information, it’s all there, you can see it. Part of the reason being in the anticipation of the sale of the business units, PCD did buy a lot of inventory from us prior to the sale of the business.

 

Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Okay. And is there any color you can give around margins by segment in Q4? Like, I know you gave the — I think it was 14 — or low to mid 20% range, rather, for Q4, but across the three segments?

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

So, one would expect on the handset side to be lower margin, which we expect to be a little bit bigger proportion in Q4. But consolidated we expected to be low to mid ‘20s.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

I mean, the IPTV and NGN Softswitch should be fine. Broadband will depend on the mix of products. But the main reason for the margin reduction quarter-on-quarter was a greater volume of handsets being sold into Korea and to PCD.

 

Rob Galtman  - Jefferies & Co. - Analyst

 

Okay, all right, great. Thanks, guys.

 

Operator

 

At this time, there are no further questions. Are there any closing remarks?

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Just like to thank everybody for listening. Obviously, we’re delighted to follow up with you individually. And Barry will be reaching out to you. Thanks again for your support. Appreciate it. Thank you.

 

Viraj Patel  - UTStarcom Incorporated - Interim CFO, VP, Corporate Controller and CAO

 

Thank you.

 

Peter Blackmore  - UTStarcom Incorporated - CEO and President

 

Let’s close the call, Operator.

 

Operator

 

This concludes today’s UTStarcom Q3 2008 earnings conference call. You may now disconnect.

 

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