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ACCESSION NUMBER:		0000897485-03-000023
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE:	5
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT:		1
CONFORMED PERIOD OF REPORT:	20021231
FILED AS OF DATE:		20031104

ISSUER:		

	COMPANY DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			NETGURU INC
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0001015920
		STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:	SERVICES-PREPACKAGED SOFTWARE [7372]
		IRS NUMBER:				222356861
		STATE OF INCORPORATION:			DE
		FISCAL YEAR END:			0331

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		22700 SAVI RANCH PARKWAY
		CITY:			YORBA LINDA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92887
		BUSINESS PHONE:		7149742500

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		22700 SAVI RANCH PKWY
		CITY:			YORBA LINDA
		STATE:			CA
		ZIP:			92887

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	RESEARCH ENGINEERS INC/
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	20000317

	FORMER COMPANY:	
		FORMER CONFORMED NAME:	RESEARCH ENGINEERS INC
		DATE OF NAME CHANGE:	19960603

REPORTING-OWNER:	

	OWNER DATA:	
		COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:			KELLOGG PETER R
		CENTRAL INDEX KEY:			0000897485

	FILING VALUES:
		FORM TYPE:		5
		SEC ACT:		1934 Act
		SEC FILE NUMBER:	000-28560
		FILM NUMBER:		03975111

	BUSINESS ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		C/O SPEAR LEEDS & KELLOGG
		STREET 2:		120 BROADWAY
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10271
		BUSINESS PHONE:		2124337070

	MAIL ADDRESS:	
		STREET 1:		120 BROADWAY
		STREET 2:		C/O SPEAR LEEDS & KELLOGG
		CITY:			NEW YORK
		STATE:			NY
		ZIP:			10271
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